--- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > So that's it. I didn't see it at first -- Hugo is a creationist. No sense > dealing with him from now on.
If you find that easier than thinking about what I've got to say then fine. > Ugh. > > Edg > > --- In [email protected], "Hugo" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > Awesome to think about. But where are they? > > > > They are probably busy not existing. Consider the fact > > that there is only complex life on Earth because DNA isn't > > perfect at it's job, if it didn't make a few teeny mistakes > > every time it made a copy of itself the complications that > > compounded to make all life we see today wouldn't have > > happened, it would still be bacteria at most floating about > > in the primordial sea. > > > > That's one fluke but consider also the many different types > > of complex life that *could* have developed a self aware > > consciousness but didn't. How many millions of generations > > went by before the particular events that forced us into > > the state we are happened? If consciousness like ours is a > > given whenever you have life why did it wait so long and > > to be the only one on Earth so far? If we disappeared is > > there any other animal that looks like it might follow in > > our footsteps and develop an advanced culture? They all > > seem happy scratching their arses and eating each other. > > To evolve complex behaviour requires a pressure from the > > environment, what happened to us that could happen to > > something else and have the same effect? > > > > Another big problem with the 'where is everybody?' idea > > is that without a long carboniferous period we wouldn't > > have had the energy to create our civilisation and probably > > wouldn't have had the time to do all the required science. > > How many other potential life harbouring planets have a > > huge supply of free energy lying around like the Earth does? > > > > Just a few of the variables you have to toy with when > > considering life on other planets but if Earth is anything > > to go by you need a *lot* of coincedences for life like > > us to get going and even more for us to be self aware so > > how can anyone claim it's likely to have happened twice > > just because there are rather a lot of planets on which > > it could have happened. > > > > I doubt we are alone as far as life - as in microbes and > > moss - are concerned but something we could talk to is > > going to be a hell of a lot rarer. It happened once here, > > once in 4 billion years. And it rather goes without saying > > that it needn't have, it took a very particular set of > > circumstances to a very particular type of animal. The > > odds *against* life like us must be absolutely astronomical. > > > > And it has to be said it is *very* quiet out there. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76JFOuCpXI&NR=1 > > > > > >
