--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Not that one can be out of the phenomenal realm. But rather,
> > > > as you suggested Judy, the desire isn't potent enough to make
> > > > it a real go. I have no doubt that someone will break through.
> > > > Someone who wants to hover enough.
> > > <snip>
> > > > We have all been trying to create positive aspirations for
> > > > the world for however many years now. And I think that 
> > > > aspiration superceeded the mere aspiration to just levitate.
> > > 
> > > You know, there's no way I want to levitate
> > > badly enough to spend the time day after day
> > > doing program.  It would be fun, and if 
> > > somebody were to hand it to me on a silver
> > > platter, I'd take it.  But in and of itself,
> > > it's not all that compelling.
> > > 
> > > Wnat I *do* want badly enough to spend the
> > > time day after day doing program is to no
> > > longer be overshadowed.  
> > 
> > You aren't really. Its just a trick of the mind that you believe 
the 
> > duality- that there is something external to you. Its a common 
trick 
> > of the mind by the way; everyone falls for it at some point ;)
> 
> And some get so attached to it that they're unwilling 
> to give it up.  The "trick of the mind" that believes it is
> "overshadowed" becomes for them the ground state
> of reality, and something to be "overcome," something
> "real." 
> 
> IMO, this is called missing the point.  It's the feeling of 
> being overshadowed that isn't real.

Which is why this intellectualization is
useless, either for encouragement or for
putting people down.

All it does is push things back a level:
Instead of having to overcome the reality
of being overshadowed, now it's the false
feeling of the reality of being overshadowed
that must be overcome.





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