--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > I think awards need to be given out for all the enlightened 
> people.  
> > 
> > Since everyone is always already enlightened, I think you
> > missed a few folks.  But since it might get expensive to give
> > an award to everyone who feels that they are not enlightened,
> > how 'bout making it a contest?
> > 
> > The Poor Me Award goes to the person who can give the 
> > best intellectual explanation of enlightenment and then 
> > follow it up with the longest and most annoying whine about 
> > how this explanation doesn't seem to have helped them 
> > realize enlightenment.  :-)
>
> And then the Wonderfully Clever Me award, to the
> person with the greatest investment in convincing
> everybody else that he is enlightened, by devising
> the most creative (if far-fetched and illogical)
> put-downs of those who, unlike himself, aren't
> afraid to admit they aren't enlightened.

Just to clarify things for Judy, whose anger at her
own lack of experience of enlightenment seems to 
be getting the better of her in a forum of people who 
have been more fortunate, I've always been clear 
that I'm not enlightened.  I was equally clear about
this on a.m.t., and she knows it.

I've had some enlightenment experiences, and they
were neat.  But so were, and are, all the experiences
in which enlightenment is not present.  I don't make a
distinction between them or long for one over another.
I suspect that a lot of people here feel the same way.

They, the ones who can live in the present and actually
enjoy it for what it is -- enlightened or not -- make this 
forum worth reading.  






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