Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

[Llundrub]

I think "taste of witnessing" implies that it was neither 27/7 nor for years. You seem fixated on witnessing as if it's some sort of absolute benchmark of awakening. However, if you listen to what awakened people have to say, you'll find that witnessing is not at all the benchmark that the TMO makes it out to be. Alex -----Witnessing is like eating pizza.  Once the flavor sets in one can recall it immediately. One need not eat pizza three square every day for the rest of their life before they can say they have truely eaten pizza. That is, before pizza enlightenment. Enough enough.   Unless one has a cognitive difficulty, to have witnessed clearly until the flavor has set in is good enough of a bench marker for moving on.   Same for the other states.   When one has clearly experienced the different states then it's as if they have had the full meal. Perhaps then, just repeating is enough.   Even though one isn't constantly eating these states of awareness and regalling others with their mouths full with the wine of grace slopping down their chin, nonetheless, to have eaten enlightened states at times with clear understanding is to have had a belly full of realization.   However, it is also said that due to the varying types of thoughts that still occur one might very well get caught up in their passions again and still fall into ignorance due to bad karma. For instance, going a long time without food one gets to starving. Until one will eat anything to fill the hole.   So one needs to fully purify obscurations until one is clear. Then just a bit of this and a bit of that, a full belly and feeling fat isn't necessary.   But realization can still be the same from first bite to last. What changes often is not the realization but the obscurations.   This is how one can be awakened, or realized, yet not enlightened.   And also how one can eat. ;) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.