--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], johnlasher20002000 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Guru Dev says that it's not good for women to use aum as part of their
> > mantra, however Ammachi gives women mantras which use aum in the
> > begining. Since both are enlightened masters what is the reality in
> > this situation???
> 
> Who says either is/was an enlightened master?


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I will cheerfully step up to the plate for this one.

Anyone who thinks Guru Dev was not enlightened is an idiot.

Ammachi is a different kind of critter; it might be more correct to think of 
her as an avatar, 
although I have no problem at all thinking of her as an "enlightened master" if 
that's the 
assertion being offered for consideration.

L B S





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