--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- authauthfriendtejsteinipanix> wrote:
> > --- In FairFairfieldLifeoyahoogroups, Peter
> > <drpedrpetersutphen.> 
> > wrote:
<snip>
> > > Words do mean different things to different
> > people.
> > > It's just when one person claims their
> > understanding
> > > of a word is the best/actual/real common sense/
> > etc.
> > > that the problems start.
> > 
> > Some words have a wide range of different and
> > sometimes even contradictory meanings, and you
> > can't assume you know for sure what someone
> > means by them unless the context makes it clear,
> > or unless they explain what meaning they're
> > using.
> > 
> > But when a word has a well-defined meaning in 
> > common usage, as I said in another post, that
> > meaning is "privileged"--in other words, if you
> > want to use the word to mean something else,
> > the onus is on you to explain how you're using
> > it.  You can't expect your listeners/readers to
> > read your mind and discern that you were using
> > it in a nonstandard manner.
> > 
> > > "Tacky" means one thing to me
> > > and something slightly different to AkasAkashablem
> > > with AkasAkashathat he keeps on claiming that his
> > > definition is the actual, common sense,
> > self-evident,
> > > obvious definition and is therefore "the"
> > definition
> > > and any problems I have with it are deficits in my
> > > character or something of that ilk and have
> > nothing to
> > > do with him or what he writes because HE DOES NOT
> > > INTEND THAT EFFECT. That is the exact point I'm
> > trying
> > > to make!
> > 
> > Yeah, you're reading a whole lot into what he
> > said.  All he said (and all I said) was that his
> > understanding of the term was in accord with the
> > standard dictionary definition.  If there was any
> > "deficit" in your character implied, it was only
> > that you seemed to think the misunderstanding was
> > his fault rather than accepting that it occurred
> > because you had used the term to mean something
> > other than what it's generally understood to mean.
> 
> Judy, this was going great until your last points.....
> I don't think I'm making my point clear, so.... my
> take on it:  We don't "read into things".

We who?

> This implies
> an absolute meaning of a word/utterance that is then
> "distorted" by the listener.

I was talking about your perception that akasha
was declaring his understanding of what the word
meant was "the" definition and that any problems
you have with that is a deficit in your character.

He didn't say anything that could reasonably be
interpreted that way, as far as I can tell.
Nothing to do with "absolute meanings," but
rather a reasonable range of relative meanings.
If your reading is outside that range, that's
what I'd call "reading into."





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