--- In [email protected], tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > "How did he lose Tibet?" Incompetence probably, and by running > > away. > > Thats what i was afraid your answer would be. "Running away" > from a massive army that would have crushed tibet's farmer > with pitch forks army lost Tibet?
Think there might be other possible ways to understand his response? And no, your question mark doesn't indicate uncertainty, given that you imagined in advance that whatever he would say would be what you assume it to mean. So it's a rhetorical question, not a request for confirmation. > You totally lost me there. This also indicates you see no room for any other interpretation. > As does your apparent bias that war violence solves > ANYTHING long run. And this is a pretty amazing conclusion based on your own imaginings, not anything he's actually said. In fact, it's *contrary* to some of the things he's said. > I love that DL is among the few persons that i have ever > heard that gives some credence and recognition to the > notion that violence ultimately only begets violence. Interesting. There are about 3,700 hits for the phrase "violence begets violence" on Yahoo, with another 1,000- plus for variations. Maybe the idea is given more credence and recognition than you suppose. > Violence begets more violence. Why is that such a hard > concept to grasp. Is it hard to grasp? It's a very fine idea, but simply giving it credence and recognition may not accomplish much. Implementing it so as to reduce violence, especially internationally, is terribly complicated and fraught with pitfalls, particularly for the naive idealist. <snip> > The only true defense to to have all nations and communities > love you. That was MMY's message and DL's message. And I > beleive Ammas message and SSRS's and many others. That is > achieved by sustained acts of good will, not supporting > dictatorial regimes that smother human dignity and rights. And how do we get those regimes to love us if we oppose them? > If all the dollars wasted in Iraq and Afghanastan were spend > in building and sustaining educational institutions and life > long learning accessible by citizens of those country > (accessible does not solely mean built in those countries) > we would be light years ahead of where we are today in > achieving real, sustain peace in the middle east. Again, a lovely idea, and surely one element of a long-term solution, but vastly more difficult to implement than you imagine. > Why we have so many here who love war (some even extol war > and militarism as a national virtue -- the heart of fascism) > is a wonder. How many do we have here who actually love war, would you say? I have to say this is a particularly amusing post given all your recent attempts to cure us of our judgmentalism and intolerance of other points of view.
