I was being ironic. The World Plan does seem to have failed though. This particular post of mine regarding the DL only discusses events concerning him up to 1959. I will have to admit that my knowledge of this particular aspect of history is not complete enough to analyse the situation well, but this discussion of the DL and the relationship of Tibet to China seems over simplistic. Whether one is a great leader, or a total incompetent, having your small country invaded by an ideologically motivated army of vast and superior technology and size is probably not something that could be stopped.
The bullies won. I do not hold Maharishi responsible for this at all. As I quoted in another post, 'For know that no one is free, except Zeus.' a quote from Aeschylus: This means that in the activity of the world, only the whole is responsible for what happens. Individuality and individual bodies moving about are puppets that think they matter. --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > A couple of things: One, much of the continued oppression of Tibet is due to > the agitation for a "free Tibet" by His Helplessness the Dalai Lama. Two, > Tibet is the DL's primary responsibility, not Maharishi's primary > responsibility. If you want to go ahead and blame the perpetuation of all of > the evil state governments in the world on Maharishi, your logic kind of > falls apart. > > --- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > wrote: > > > > > > The Dalai Lama was about 24 years old when he fled (including about > > 80,000 countrymen) to India. He was aided by the CIA. How many are great > > statesmen at this age? It was feared the Chinese were going to abduct > > him. China had occupied the capital since 1951 and things got very > > complicated when the Tibetans revolted in 1959. Exactly what is a > > spiritual failure? Failing to become enlightened is a spiritual failure. > > Do we know what the Dalai Lama's spiritual state is now, or was then? > > > > While he was the traditional head of Tibet, it does not seem there was > > much he could do in face of the Chinese forces bearing down on Tibet. > > According the the Dalai Lama, "The first thought in the mind of every > > official within the Palaceâ¦.was that my life must be saved and I > > must leave the Palace and the city at onceâ¦â¦Everything was > > uncertain, except the compelling anxiety of all my people to get me away > > before the orgy of Chinese destruction and massacre began". > > > > I think the situation was much more complicated than characterising this > > as some massive spiritual failure. In what way do Vaj's put downs of MMY > > distract from this other train of events? The Dalai Lama recommends > > everyone to meditate every day, just like MMY. And he seems to be better > > known than MMY. If he did not succeed at stopping the China, and that > > was his goal, then that is a failure, but that is not necessarily a > > spiritual failure for a person to not play superhero. Maybe he thinks of > > himself as a failure, I would not know, but others consider the move a > > wise one in the circumstances. > > > > Here are some other things that did not work out. Maharishi inaugurates > > the World Plan (1972) to solve the age-old problems of mankind in this > > generation. The seven Goals of the World Plan are: > > > > 1. To develop the full potential of the individual. > > 2. To improve governmental achievements. > > 3. To realise the highest ideal of education. > > 4. To solve the problems of crime, drug abuse, and all behaviour that > > brings unhappiness to the family of man. > > 5. To maximize the intelligent use of the environment. > > 6. To bring fulfilment to the economic aspirations of individuals and > > society. > > 7. To achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation. > > > > These goals did not get Tibet in any better a situation either, and the > > world seems pretty much as it was then, if not worse off. Everyone, > > whether they know it or not, is spiritual, but some are dimmer than > > others. Perhaps the most visible spiritual failure among the world's > > traditions is probably the former Cardinal Ratzinger, who seems > > considerably more spiritually occluded than his predecessors. > > >
