--- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > "How did he lose Tibet?" Incompetence probably, and by running away. >
Thats what i was afraid your answer would be. "Running away" from a massive army that would have crushed tibet's farmer with pitch forks army lost Tibet? You totally lost me there. As does your apparent bias that war violence solves ANYTHING long run. I love that DL is among the few persons that i have ever heard that gives some credence and recognition to the notion that violence ultimately only begets violence. And a recognition that violence raining upon oneself or country was created previously. Why shoot the messenger. Shooting the messenger simple keeps the cycle of violence alive. See how retributive violence has been in the middle east. It ONLY creates wave after wave, cycle after cycle of unending violence. it does nothing to create lasting peace. Look at all of the (mostly) non-violent revolutions, velvet revolutions of the past 30 years. Phillippines, Eastern Europe, former USSR, Middle East -- and is growing momentum through the world. Do you think violent confrontation with massive well equiped armies by ill armed untrained citizens in the streets would have, could have produced the same results? Go slug someone in the street and see what happens. If not today, then sometime down the road. Go insult someone on FFL and see if that is met in kind. See if it solves or improves the situation. Or changes the behavior or the insultee. Violence begets more violence. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp. You can talk of defensive wars all you like, but most wars, in US case at least, are reaction to bad stuff that occurred due to US prior poor moves. Sorry but Civil War, Spanish American war, WWI, WWII, Korea war, Vietnam, Iraq were all avoidable or discretionary offensive wars. The only true defense to to have all nations and communities love you. That was MMY's message and DL's message. And I beleive Ammas message and SSRS's and many others. That is achieved by sustained acts of good will, not supporting dictatorial regimes that smother human dignity and rights. If all the dollars wasted in Iraq and Afghanastan were spend in building and sustaining educational institutions and life long learning accessible by citizens of those country (accessible does not solely mean built in those countries) we would be light years ahead of where we are today in achieving real, sustain peace in the middle east. Why we have so many here who love war (some even extol war and militarism as a national virtue -- the heart of fascism) is a wonder. > --- In [email protected], tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > "wrathful compassion"?? Are you kidding me, fool?? LOL your kids must > > > just love you dude...In any case wrathful compassion is reserved as a > > > tool for realized beings, not angry lost little boys like you. > > > > > > HHDL is also distracting us, you incredible phony. He lost Tibet > > > > How did he lose Tibet? > > > > > > > and you AND he are unable to face this. Maharishi is gone, but His > > > Helplessness the Dalai Lama continues to bring misery and destruction on > > > the people of Tibet. Face it.:-) > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > > > > > > > What "V - We are of Peace" is not telling you is that almost all > > > > > Buddhist teachers tell their students not to indulge in disputes with > > > > > students or teachers of other traditions of practice or other forms > > > > > of meditation, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Christian or other. While > > > > > they will do an analysis of another tradition's "tenets" they leave > > > > > it at that. They are not called either to proselytize or to attack > > > > > other traditions of spiritual practice. They are only called to do > > > > > their own sadhana. They also are not called to consort themselves > > > > > with mere soi-disants much less be one themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually HHDL has made it very clear phonies and gurus who molest their > > > > students should be exposed for who and what they are publicly. It's a > > > > form of wrathful compassion, which is not well understood. > > > > > > > > > >
