--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > This distinction is a classic case of Maharishi's two > teachings, the one he used for PR (scientific materialism) > and the one he pulled out when there were believers in the > room. He used his PR message to appear sciency (A method > he actually had contempt for.)
I don't think you can base your "two teachings" premise solely on the basis of those two sentences. > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "PaliGap" <compost1uk@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Yifu" <yifuxero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > thx, on his stmt that everything is physical, consciousness > > > > is a product of brain functioning, etc; > > > > > > You think that's what it says? (The statement from MMY below). > > > > That *is* what it says, almost verbatim. Look again (between > > the added asterisks): > > > > > > > "Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded > > > > > awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. > > > > > Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other > > > > > phase. When we talk of scientific measurements, it does not take away > > > > > from the spiritual experience. We are not responsible for those times > > > > > when spiritual experience was thought of as metaphysical. > > > > > ***Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the > > > > > functioning of the brain.*** Talking of scientific measurements is no > > > > > damage to that wholeness of life which is present everywhere and > > > > > which begins to be lived when the physiology is taking on a > > > > > particular form. This is our understanding about spirituality: it is > > > > > not on the level of faith --it is on the level of blood and bone and > > > > > flesh and activity. It is measurable." > > > > > Isn't it more accurately summarized as "everything has a physical > > > level, consciousness is correlated with brain functioning"? > > > Metaphysically that's a big difference. > > > > Correlation does not imply causation. But he was explicit > > that consciousness is caused by ("is the product of") brain > > functioning. And "is physical" is not the same as "has a > > physical level." > > > > He may have "really meant" something more like your summary, > > but that just ain't what he actually said in that statement. > > I suspect, in light of the rest of his teaching, that he > > inadvertently overstated his point in the two sentences > > between the asterisks. But you can't say Yifu *misread* what > > he wrote. > > >
