--- In [email protected], "Robert" <babajii_99@...> wrote: > > (snip) > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > According to Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, TM-style "enlightenment" is > > actually of form of induced psychosis. It is perceived exactly as > > described, but is in fact a form of psychosis. Given that one can > > experience such things as "the universe as fluctuations of > > consciousness" while under the influence of various different > > psychedelics, it sounds like it would be safer to eschew TM's "serenity > > without drugs" for some damn good drugs. > > > > > > At least you don't end up insane (typically) as the end result. > > > > > > Give me some Don Juan Matus anytime over becoming the latest > > self-proclaimed Super-Rishi or Raja. > > > > > > It makes me wonder how typical a description of the world "as > > consciousness" is among the mentally ill? > > > > > > Thoughts? > > (snip) > What world would exist without... 'Consiousness'... > What world exists while you are in deep sleep? > Do you know what your name is while in deep sleep? > Do you know anything in deep sleep...? > It seems obvious, that nothing exists without 'Consciousness' ... > 'Consciousness is the basis for 'Existence' itself... >
Does the tree that falls in the forest make a sound if there is: 1) no forest; 2) no air; 3) no tree in the first place? L.
