--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Question below. > > > > > > authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't think you'd care for him much. Here's his > > > > description of one of the teachers who works with > > > > Saniel Bonder, from the Web site: > > > > > > What follows sounds like a great way to interact with people. > > > Why do you say "I don't think you'd care for him much," Judy? > > > Are you being sarcastic? > > > > It sounds great to me too; it's just what I was > > saying awhile back that I think enlightened people > > *should* be doing when they're interacting with > > people in ignorance--rather than telling them, e.g., > > You only *think* you're overshadowed, or, Stress > > release is just an excuse for people who don't > > really want to achieve enlightenment. > > > > It's what I think MMY does, at least from what > > I've seen of his tapes. He's able to empathize > > with the experiential reality of people in > > ignorance and doesn't try to tell them they're > > not really having the experience they say they're > > having, even though his experiential reality may > > be very different. > > It seems to me that you're trying to define what would > be "good" in a spiritual teacher *from the point of view > of the person in ignorance, the student, pandering to > the person in ignorance's comfort levels*.
<guffaw> I knew you wouldn't approve of this guy's approach. Patrick couldn't understand why I'd said that. Just for kicks, since you snipped it, here it is again; "The second thing that caught my attention was seeing Hillary Davis work with one of the participants. Hillary, like me, has a background in Advaita Vedanta with Papaji. One of the central understandings of many in that school is that attachment to a person's personal story (how they see themselves, how they think of themselves and their past) is an obstacle to clear seeing and should not be taken too seriously. "What I saw as Hillary listened to one person's story of suffering was subtle and difficult to convey: I could clearly see and feel that Hillary was seeing this person as consciousness itself, free of all limiting definitions of mind AND AT THE SAME TIME Hillary was taking the person's story 100% seriously and seemed to be believing everything this person conveyed about their life experience. It was obvious that the person was being deeply seen as a person complete with limitations but not held to them, because they were also seen as being free of them." <snip> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
