--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question below. > > authfriend wrote: > > > > I don't think you'd care for him much. Here's his > > description of one of the teachers who works with > > Saniel Bonder, from the Web site: > > What follows sounds like a great way to interact with people. > Why do you say "I don't think you'd care for him much," Judy? > Are you being sarcastic? > > Densely, > > Patrick Gillam
I was going to comment at the time you posted this, Patrick, that what I thought was going on was that Judy had had her buttons pushed by something I said, and was trying to start a thread that would give her a chance to retaliate by dumping on me. As it turns out, that's exactly how it turned out. :-) Little did I know that the thing that set her off was me merely pointing out the obvious (from one spiritual point of view), that Maharishi's theory of enlightenment being "blocked* by "stress" is just an intellectual excuse that those who believe themselves unenlightened can cling to to preserve their illusion of unenlightenment. To balance my original statement, I concede that *providing* such excuses could be seen as a positive thing. It enables those who *want* to cling to ignorance to do so without feeling bad about it. It's not "them" that's causing their ignorance, or the stories they tell themselves about the self that's causing it -- its "stress." "Bad stress. Evil stress. If it weren't for stress, I'd be enlightened." The above is a non-sectarian mantra...if you're not convinced that stress is the boogeyman that keeps you in ignorance, replace the word "stress" with whatever term you have for the boogeyman that keeps you in ignorance and that term will work for you just as well as "stress" does. :-) Unc P.S. In case you've never encountered it, one approach that is sometimes taken by some spiritual teachers when dealing with students who have established a history of clinging to their stories is to poke fun at the student for doing so. Since this number has been run on me many times, I can attest that sometimes it works, and the student actually makes a break- through and laughs at him self or her self and the stories no longer have any power over them. Sometimes all it does is reinforce the stories and make the student angry. Basically, for both student and teacher, it's a crapshoot...you never know how it's going to turn out. But IMO trying it is better than just sitting there and allowing someone to make themselves crazy listening over and over to the same old tired stories they tell them selves. If nothing else, it alleviates the boredom... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
