--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --There is a concept, which Eckhart Tolle, talks about: "the Pain > Body". > He claims, it is the "pain body", which interferes with the > experience of Being, Presence, Enlightenment. > One technique he uses to alleviate the pain body is to just sit with > it; witness it. > He says, that the pain body, sometimes lies dormant, and when a > button is pushed, that pain which is unhealed, comes to the surface. > The strange thing is: the pain body, tries to replenish itself, when > coming to the surface, by creating more pain, more karma. So, the > only way out of creating more pain, more karma is to witness the > pain body when it comes forth. > Instead of feeling bad, when you're feeling bad, recognize, that > you are not your thought,you are not your feelings, but just witness > what is going on inside of you; the more intense the thoughts, and > feelings, the more potential for healing is there.
Interesting stuff. I'll have to look into it more. Thanks. As for the "pain body" *replenishing* itself, I think that's right on. This next bit may seem like a non-sequitur, but I don't think it is. In studies of addiciton (tobacco, drugs, etc.) one theory of How It Works is that the person is really *allergic to* the substance that he is addicted to. Why this is relevant is the mechanism of allergic reactions. Strangely, when one is severely allergic to a substance and then stops coming in contact with it, the first thing that the body does is *crave* the very substance that one is allergic to. Maybe there is some of this phenomenon present in the mechanics of ignorance wanting to preserve itself. The body/mind construct thinks it has things "down pat." It has found coping mechanisms that allow it to get through the day. And then something happens to challenge the status quo -- a particularly shiny meditation, something that a teacher says, a powerful session of darshan or satsang, just a passing comment on the Internet, whatever. Bottom line is that the status quo has been challenged, the coping mechanism thrown off balance. What if, on some level, one of the automatic reations of a body/mind lost in ignorance is to, at that point, *crave* all the things that created the previous state of status quo ignorance? I think that Tolle's "feel the body" idea is a good one. It's certainly preferable to diving back into the muck once it's been stirred up. It's also more in line with the metaphor of enlightenment. The *same* thing is going to continue to happen after enlightenment -- events are going to happen that are going to push our buttons, no matter how enlightened we may be. But in enlightenment, the "witness" has been established as a habit, and one may more easily fall back on that witness and just witness the passing emotions of a button-pushing in an attempt to get back to the status quo of enlightenment, rather than fall back on old habits in an attempt to get back to the status quo of ignorance. Beats me, but it's interesting stuff to ponder. > Bill Harris(centerpointe.com) who developed the Holosync CD's also, > takes this approach; > > He advises, that when listening to the holosync CD, which produces a > deep coherent low frequency brain wave pattern, (which increases the > experience of witnessing) that in this witnessing state, to just > watch the thoughts, and feelings, and that dissolves them. > He actually says, that the pain comes from 'holding on' to the old > patterns, instead of just letting them go. Exactly. Some part of the body/mind construct is actually *craving* the old pain, and thus craving that which will bring it back. > So, different enlightened people have different ways of helping; > each has something to give. Exactly. Which is one reason the "stick to one teacher" idea may be fatally flawed. One teacher may "work for" a student for a while, but then the student's body/mind construct develops defenses against that teacher, and relegates him/her to the "status quo." At that point, going to see another teacher who has a completely different "out of the status quo box" style may have a beneficial effect on the student. It doesn't make the second teacher any "better," just different. And sometimes difference can make all the difference. :-) > We are all here to help each other become enlightened as quickly as > possible, realizing the state of the world, and our place in it. > Don't minimize your own enlightenment, and just witness whatever > blocks you perceive to be blocks. > And,That's what it's all about.!! Yup. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
