--There is a concept, which Eckhart Tolle, talks about: "the Pain Body". He claims, it is the "pain body", which interferes with the experience of Being, Presence, Enlightenment. One technique he uses to alleviate the pain body is to just sit with it; witness it. He says, that the pain body, sometimes lies dormant, and when a button is pushed, that pain which is unhealed, comes to the surface. The strange thing is: the pain body, tries to replenish itself, when coming to the surface, by creating more pain, more karma. So, the only way out of creating more pain, more karma is to witness the pain body when it comes forth. Instead of feeling bad, when you're feeling bad, recognize, that you are not your thought,you are not your feelings, but just witness what is going on inside of you; the more intense the thoughts, and feelings, the more potential for healing is there.
Bill Harris(centerpointe.com) who developed the Holosync CD's also, takes this approach; He advises, that when listening to the holosync CD, which produces a deep coherent low frequency brain wave pattern, (which increases the experience of witnessing) that in this witnessing state, to just watch the thoughts, and feelings, and that dissolves them. He actually says, that the pain comes from 'holding on' to the old patterns, instead of just letting them go. So, different enlightened people have different ways of helping; each has something to give. We are all here to help each other become enlightened as quickly as possible, realizing the state of the world, and our place in it. Don't minimize your own enlightenment, and just witness whatever blocks you perceive to be blocks. And,That's what it's all about.!! - In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Question below. > > > > authfriend wrote: > > > > > > I don't think you'd care for him much. Here's his > > > description of one of the teachers who works with > > > Saniel Bonder, from the Web site: > > > > What follows sounds like a great way to interact with people. > > Why do you say "I don't think you'd care for him much," Judy? > > Are you being sarcastic? > > > > Densely, > > > > Patrick Gillam > > I was going to comment at the time you posted this, Patrick, > that what I thought was going on was that Judy had had her > buttons pushed by something I said, and was trying to start a > thread that would give her a chance to retaliate by dumping > on me. > > As it turns out, that's exactly how it turned out. :-) > > Little did I know that the thing that set her off was me merely > pointing out the obvious (from one spiritual point of view), > that Maharishi's theory of enlightenment being "blocked* > by "stress" is just an intellectual excuse that those who > believe themselves unenlightened can cling to to preserve > their illusion of unenlightenment. > > To balance my original statement, I concede that *providing* > such excuses could be seen as a positive thing. It enables > those who *want* to cling to ignorance to do so without feeling > bad about it. It's not "them" that's causing their ignorance, or > the stories they tell themselves about the self that's causing it - - > its "stress." > > "Bad stress. Evil stress. If it weren't for stress, I'd be enlightened." > > The above is a non-sectarian mantra...if you're not convinced > that stress is the boogeyman that keeps you in ignorance, replace > the word "stress" with whatever term you have for the boogeyman > that keeps you in ignorance and that term will work for you just > as well as "stress" does. :-) > > Unc > > P.S. In case you've never encountered it, one approach that > is sometimes taken by some spiritual teachers when dealing > with students who have established a history of clinging to > their stories is to poke fun at the student for doing so. Since > this number has been run on me many times, I can attest that > sometimes it works, and the student actually makes a break- > through and laughs at him self or her self and the stories no > longer have any power over them. Sometimes all it does is > reinforce the stories and make the student angry. Basically, > for both student and teacher, it's a crapshoot...you never know > how it's going to turn out. But IMO trying it is better than just > sitting there and allowing someone to make themselves crazy > listening over and over to the same old tired stories they tell > them selves. If nothing else, it alleviates the boredom... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
