--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > <snippity snip> 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you see the difference between "You're trying to
> > > > > > avoid becoming enlightened" and "I perceive that the
> > > > > > way you're going about this is getting in the way of
> > > > > > your enlightenment"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, the first phrasing is about you, and spoken directly 
to 
> > > you, 
> > > > so 
> > > > > that you are then given the choice to deal with the issue 
at 
> > > hand, 
> > > > or 
> > > > > not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The second phrasing is about me, and what my perceptions of 
> you 
> > > > are, 
> > > > > therefore bringing into question the validity of my 
> > perceptions. 
> > > As 
> > > > I 
> > > > > said earlier, while this may be a fascinating topic for 
you, 
> it 
> > > > avoids 
> > > > > the issue at hand; the removal of obstacles to 
enlightenment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So the difference to me is clear. You persist in making 
> these 
> > > > semantic 
> > > > > distinctions, which are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Do 
> I 
> > > > believe 
> > > > > that your motive of becoming enlightened is genuine? As 
> > > Maharishi 
> > > > > says, the prrof is in the pudding.
> > > > 
> > > > What pudding?
> > > 
> > > As Maharishi says, The proof is in the pudding.
> > 
> > What pudding?
> 
> "The proof [i.e., test] of the pudding is in the eating," meaning 
we 
> can only know something by actually trying it :-)

Yes, but what pudding?




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