--- In [email protected], Mark Landau <m@...> wrote:
>
> > Do you still do TM? 
> > 
> No.  I sit and be with whatever arises.  Usually, after a while, it all 
> subsides and I am in some form of samadhi.  Usually, the time being with 
> what's arising exceeds the time in samadhi.
>
> > 

Mark, that is honest.  As I survey around here that is what a lot of old 
meditators say and do.  They've graduated in a sense back to something else 
that is effortless, transcendental and meditating.  Most still see themselves 
as being 'meditators'.  Most here are not doing the TM-siddhis actively.   
Lately a lot of people have gone through and rotated off of the current 
Invincible America Course noting the time doing the TM-siddhis is too long and 
boring. So they've reverted back to simply meditating.  

This actually is an un-stated community problem that the TB'ers left 
administrating inside have on their hands in making the TM-siddhis their 
flag-ship.  Most folks around here no longer regularly practice the siddhis as 
their meditation.  Most just are not vested in the siddhis anymore.  In trend 
over the years, Meditators here mostly have left the siddhis in storage and 
only occassionally get them out.  The 'TM-siddhis' movement has mostly gone on 
as meditators.  Witness that there really are just a very few hundreds doing 
the 'siddhis' in the domes now.  As a meditating movement this is basically the 
size of what the TM-movement is facilitating now as a meditating movement and 
what it is down to now.

As I ask around most are not doing the siddhis as their meditation practice but 
say when asked that they would go up there for a group meditation if it were 
open.  That, yes they are still meditators and practice.  The movement as it is 
has long since abdicated the simple meditator promoting the siddhis the TM 
flag-ship three and almost four decades ago.   The conservatives in charge now 
evidently are determined to go down with their ship rather than accomodate a 
course.  To them it is all about the siddhis.  To meditators in the larger 
community it evidently is about something else.    


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