Nice questions, wayback. As little as I find myself being interested
in Maharishi himself these days, I would be very interested to hear
Mark's response, because as you say he expresses his experiences
very well, and IMO a well-balanced manner.

--- In [email protected], "wayback71" <wayback71@...> wrote:
>
> Mark, if you reconsider and decide to write that book (maybe a few of
you should get together, brainstorm your memories and get the thing
written) that would be of interest to many of of us. - I think it would
sell and not just to TM'ers.  If you don't do the book,  I for one would
be delighted to read more of these memories and stories.  You have a
wonderfully thoughtful way of writing about them, including the
ambiguity.
>
> If you care to answer any or all -
>
> Were you there when the spaceship supposedly landed in Mallorca and
MMY was driven to the beach and got on for a while? If so, what hapened?
I was on TCC there then (Fall 1971 and early winter of 1972 til the move
to Fiuggi) but not up that late at night.
>
> You say you saw angels, devas. Did you ever see anything on a subtle
level that indicated that MMY was not on his best behavior or had an
entirely human side as well? (ie did his energy change or darken)
>
> How did Maharishi chose you as skin boy?
>
> Was there any talk among the inner circle staff about doubts and
concerns (especially when people got burned out and decided to leave),
suspicions about meetings with Judith?  Or were you all so heavily
drugged by the bliss?
>
> What was the single most powerful experience you had in your time
around MMY?
>
> Were you around to see the introduction of the siddhis?  If so, how
did that come about from your perspective?
>
> Do you still do TM?
>
> Was it worth it, the growth and bliss versus the lengthy process of
disillusionment of your dreams?
>
> --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for this Mark. Awesome post.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Mark Landau
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:22 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow, are we one dimensional?  I believe it's the sign of a developed
being
> > that he or she can easily hold all the paradoxes.  Not only can I
have it
> > both ways, but I must have it both ways and, beyond that, have it
all ways
> > that were, are or ever will be, if I am to do any justice to truth
and
> > reality.  That's a lot of ways.  I also believe that, ultimately, we
must go
> > beyond all the paradoxes and polarities, including the polarity of
good and
> > bad (and that, of course, doesn't mean that we rush out to do all
the "bad"
> > things we possibly can ASAP).
> >
> >
> >
> > The truth of the matter, if anyone cares, is that, like Judith
Bourke, who I
> > find to be a wonderful, honest person, I was in love with him (no,
prurient
> > ones, not that way, though there are things I could say about that,
too) and
> > the notion and seeming experience that TM could transform the world
for the
> > better.  Why else would I work seven days a week for the movement
for nearly
> > five years and pay significantly to do so?  Are we not all some
blend of the
> > three gunas?  Aren't there glorious and dark things about all of us?
> >
> >
> >
> > M was no different.  One of the most glorious things about him was
his
> > energy.  I lived and basked in it pretty much straight for the seven
months
> > I was skin boy and for a lot of the five years I was with him.  I
went
> > through withdrawal for two years when I lost it.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's my voice in the background of DWTF when David cut to the
archival
> > footage of M entering the hall with Jerry carrying the skin saying
something
> > like, "It was like divine air came down from heaven and I got
addicted to
> > it."  Is that so very negative?
> >
> >
> >
> > In one other sentence I said something like, "Remember how I said he
could
> > get into you and help you sleep?  He could also get into you and
completely
> > pulverize you."  Is that both "negative" and "positive"?  Of course,
> > one-dimensional believers would say having M pulverize you would be
the
> > greatest blessing.  It could only be all positive.  But what if he
did it
> > because he was pissed, out of sorts or sexually frustrated?  Yes,
IME, he
> > definitely got sexually frustrated.  In my total reworking of his
own words,
> > the only man in all of recored history that anyone knew about who
lived
> > beyond the libido was Sukadeva.
> >
> >
> >
> > I also said in the movie, "It took me a while to put the paradox
together.
> > How could he be wonderful and awful at the same time?  Well, that's
just how
> > it was.  He was wonderful and awful at the same time."  David filmed
me for
> > over two hours and he used the several minutes that suited his
purpose in
> > segueing from the more positive part of the film to the more
negative.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I feel no conflict or contradiction in saying "In my experience,
they
> > still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and molecules have
been
> > entrained in it. And, of course, in India, they would be holy
objects to be
> > revered. I have kept them very well protected and have handled them
very
> > little over the decades."  and
> >
> >
> >
> > M abused women, devastated people right and left and was more
concerned with
> > money than with treating people decently.
> >
> >
> >
> > They're all simply true.  And so were all the other totally glorious
aspects
> > of that intense, complex man.
> >
> >
> >
> > Was anyone else in the movie theater that night in Fiuggi, or
wherever it
> > was, when M's darshan got so strong that it made all the little,
hanging
> > crystals dance extravagantly and tinkle together as if there were a
small
> > tornado blowing through the hall?  And probably only I saw this, but
when M
> > first got to Murren, the three mountain devas came to greet him. 
IME, which
> > of course many of you would completely howl at, they had been
waiting for
> > someone for centuries and thought, because of his light, that it
might be M.
> > M went completely silent and looked up at them for several moments
while
> > they communed.  He wasn't who they were waiting for, they left and
the
> > lecture went on.  And you should have seen the angel stations that
> > congregated in the intersections of the pathways between the puja
tables in
> > the halls where M made teachers.  That's why he didn't like people
walking
> > around then.  I had to bust right through one of them to get to him
to tell
> > him something urgent while he was giving out the mantras.  The five
or six
> > angels in that one station took off in all directions like they had
been
> > stung.  (There, three little stories...)
> >
> >
> >
> > For me, the truth holds a higher priority than rules about the truth
or any
> > rules that are more about control than the highest good.  Perhaps I
am wrong
> > about that.  Do my circumstances prove that, one way or another?  I
think
> > not.  In the actual words of the man himself, "Karma is
unfathomable."  I do
> > love some of his sound bites.  Another one that would be appropriate
here is
> > "There are no absolutes in the relative."
> >
> >
> >
> > You're only confused because you're thinking one-dimensionally. 
When you
> > move beyond that, try watching my interview in the film again.  You
may, or
> > may not, see it slightly differently.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for eliciting this,
> >
> >
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:28 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a little confused. Is this the same Mark Landau who spoke such
unkind
> > words about Maharishi in the film "David Wants To Fly."? When
attempting to
> > sell Maharishi's sandals there are no unkind words spoken, only
glorifying
> > words, probably as an attempt to increase the marketability of the
sandals.
> > I have compassion for Mark that he is having financial
> > challenges in this economy, like so many others. Apparently his
> > involvement with Maharishi did not result in financial well being
> > as it did for so many others (John Gray, Barbara DeAngeles, Deepak
Chopra,
> > etc., and the many wealthy meditators living in Fairfield and around
the
> > world. Maybe it's more difficult to get Nature Support when one
cavils about
> > the Master. I'm sure someone would
> > appreciate having the sandals and would be willing to pay something
> > for them. My guess is that the only value to Mark would be for
firewood.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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