--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --Why does an "Enlightened One" bother to do anything? If one is 
> completely fulfilled within himself, or herself, why "do" anything?
> Inherent in the question is the notion that nothing of value can be 
> gained by relating to other's experience, hopes, questions, of 
> people that have spent years on the path, and are still very much 
> seekers who are seeking.

Lawson (who asked the question initially) can speak
for himself, but I seriously doubt that was inherent
in the question as far as he was concerned, and it
certainly wasn't in my mind either.

It's amazing how many wild things folks have read
into what Lawson asked.




> The whole thing seems to me to be a feeling, that unless you have 
> some postition that society considers meaningful or powerful or 
sexy 
> or whatever, then you are just 'another brick in the wall'.
> It is exactly this attitude which keeps people idolizing the false 
> gods of our culture.
> Some people are just more interested in money; take for example 
> Deepak Chopra; he has basically plagerized all of Maharishi's work;
> He dosen't seem enlightened to me, although he does seem to be 
> devoted to making as much money as he possibly can..and not to just 
> pick on him, but we see mega examples of this attitude prevalent on 
> our culture, that money is the end goal of everyting..
> The movies every week: How much did each gross, this weekend.
> There was a time, when things were not analysed solely on the 
basis, 
> of how much it grossed this past weekend.
> I myself like participating in this discussion, because I feel that 
> I have acheived a lot on the path to enlightenment, and wish to 
> share with others my experience, creativity, and compassion. 
> And, I wish to learn from other's and I have learned a lot, since 
> discovering this forum, just a few months ago..
> What's wrong with that?

Did anybody say there was something "wrong" with it?



> 
> - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > IOW, why would an Awakened ONe bother reading/posting 
> on 
> > this 
> > > > > > > forum?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It's fun?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Just seems awfully *attached* somehow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then again, you seem to be of the opinion that the 
> > > > > Awakened should only tell you what you want to
> > > > > hear, so I'm not convinced you have sufficient 
> > > > > unattachment to render an impartial judgment 
> > > > > on the situation.  :-)
> > 
> > (It would seem you haven't seen my response to
> > this, BTW, the one that suggested you'd completely
> > missed the point of what I wrote.)
> > 
> > 
> > > > > The best answer has already been given -- "Because 
> > > > > it's fun."
> > > > > 
> > > > > The next best answer might be "To learn more about
> > > > > the infinite mysteries of creation by learning more 
> > > > > about the almost infinite number of ways that humans
> > > > > *can* become awakened."
> > > > 
> > > > which we all know is easy to do by reading what is 
essentially 
> an 
> > > > anonymous service.
> > > 
> > > Anonymity has nothing to do with it.  We're all basically
> > > anonymous in real life, too, just calling ourselves the things
> > > that others called us as we were growing up.
> > > 
> > > For me, the thing that makes this board more interesting
> > > than most others is that here I encounter people who, when
> > > they discuss the myriad experiences that encompass what
> > > we call enlightenment, I can actually *feel* the enlightenment
> > > "coming through" in the posts.  I cannot tell you *how*, I 
cannot
> > > provide any explanation for why that might be, but it is.  
Having
> > > "been there, done that" myself, however briefly, it's like some-
> > > thing in me still recognizes that infinity when I encounter it, 
> > > even in posts on the Internet.  Go figure.
> > > 
> > > You can choose to scoff and disbelieve this if you want, but
> > > I'm trying to reply to a sceptical, put-down question with an
> > > honest answer.
> > 
> > The question was, "Why would an Awakened One bother
> > reading/posting on this forum?"
> > 
> > You've given us reasons why *you* bother reading/posting
> > on this forum.  But unless you're claiming to be an
> > Awakened One, that doesn't answer the question that was
> > asked, honestly or otherwise.
> > 
> > The question was skeptical, but it's kind of
> > interesting that you take it as a putdown rather
> > than as an invitation to discussion.





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