--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > Right, so why can't Israel exist peacefully in 'Palestine'? > > > > > > > > > > Beats me, though I don't think the 'we were here first' > > argument > > > > works > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > Probably because the Israeli state was created by the British > > from > > > > > seized Arab land in the late 40's, in order to weaken the Arab > > > > > nationalist movement. No one ever goes for that stuff, and > > there > > > > has > > > > > been war there ever since. > > > > > > > > I think you are mistaken, the *JEWS* bought most of the land > > from > > > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The JEWS > > made > > > > it > > > > what it is today....isn't that reason enough? (Plus having been > > there > > > > since the beginning of time). > > > > > > Is that the 6000 year old "beginning of time" per the Old Testement > > > (as interpreted by some) or the 20 million years ago "beginning of > > > time" that the progenitors of all current humanity migrated out of > > > Ethiopia, or the 6 billion? years beginning of time when the earth > > was > > > created, ot the 20? billions years ago "beginning of time" since > > the > > > big bang? > > > > I have read that 80 to 90 percent of Israel's population is > > Ashkenazi, who are thought to be caucasoid descendants of the > > eastern-European Khazars, who never lived in the Near- or Middle- > > East, and who converted to Judaism as late as the 7th or 8th century > > CE. Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who actually > > *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and who > > (I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class > > citizens in Israel. > > Cultural / religious claims of owning and having eternal rights to a > portion of the earth based on where ones ancestors lived, (sometimes a > dubious claims, as illustrated above), seems a rather odd argument. My > ancestors owned a lot of land in Ireland, just ouside Dublin. Can I > claim it? Others owned lots of land in what are now (not then) ritzy > resort areas. Can I claim several acres of prime real estate there? I > would be an instant billionaire. Help me out here, because I would > love to make these claims.
Jesse Helms -- the former Senator from North Carolina -- once sponsored a bill that actually became law that allowed certain Americans to sue foreign nationals that did business with firms in Cuba that were formally owned by Cubans (most of whom were now living in the U.S.) that had their businesses confiscated by Castro and the communist government of Cuba and who were never compensated for them. It was quite obvious to Canadians that the law was aimed directly at those Canadians (Cuba's #1 trading partner) who did business with Cuba. Canada's response to Helms' bill? The Canadian Parliament passed a law saying that anscentors of Canadians who had left the United States during the U.S. War of Independence and came to Canada as Empire Loyalists who had THEIR land confiscated by citizens of the new country of the United States could get compensated TOO. It turns out that about 50% of the state of New York and all of Washington D.C. fall under that category! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgjkkm7/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123659315/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page</a></font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
