---One of the best books I have found to read on this matter is: Jesus and the Zealots (A Study of the Political Factor in Primitive Christianity) (Hardcover) by S G F. Brandon (Author)
see: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/- /0684310104/qid=1123698971/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7619991-9000117? v=glance&s=books In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, since you've read alot about the cruxifiction (Cross Fiction) could you tell me whether the crosses were actually X shaped? Instead of T? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Gimbel > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:34 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature > > > --- I have read many books on the matter. > Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were > executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious > nature of the Romans... > When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize > it, and take all Jewishness out. > After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them. > So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt > and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes. > You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch > trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could > accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and > burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have > been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the > person who Jesus was? > So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no > proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach > something, when one does not care to learn. > > > In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --Jesus never said these things. > > > > And how do you KNOW this? > > > > btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you > > feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much > > doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own? > > > > Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago, > > speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but > > the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hd1vmvl/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706381/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs">Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page</a></font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
