--- In [email protected], "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better than > anyone > else's. It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > say about the > spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and I wish they > would leave it at > that. >
This was a response Kai had to everyone bashing him on this forum for his sincere comments. In a sense, it was an *invited* response. Interesting that you must attack his beliefs rather than adress what he says here since we already knew what his beliefs were when we invited him to respond. > --- In [email protected], "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I apologize for the long delay in responding to your postings about > > the PBS feature. Where to start? I don't want this to be a > > theological discussion. What we are talking about is grounded in > > experience and relationship; it is my experience of relationship > > with Christ. Still, that experience has been based on my > > understanding of who Christ is, who I am and what the nature of our > > relationship can be. > > > > So what about TM would prevent me from accepting Jesus as my one > and > > only Savior? Two things: For one the teaching that my spiritual > > situation is one of ignorance, not of sin. There is no concept of a > > savior or of salvation in the Vedic teachings, because there is no > > concept of sin, nothing one needs to be saved from. There is a > place > > for a teacher in this, but no place for a Savior. > > > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, > that > > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. So, He is either God, as He said > > and as many witnesses testified, or He was insane, or He was Satan. > > If what He said was not true, He was either out of His mind (and > > this is what the religious Jews said), or He knowingly led millions > > and millions of people into spiritual deception, a satanic > > undertaking. No founder of any religion that I am aware of ever > made > > the claims that He made, neither did any perform the miracles that > > He did, neither did any extend healing and forgiveness freely to > > everyone who asked for it. > > > > What then did Christ save me from, what was my sin? I could come up > > with many instances of sinful behavior in my life, and would still > > miss the point. My sin is my state of separation from God, my > > spiritual pride and self-centeredness, my attempt to usurp the > place > > of God and exalt myself to be the ruler. Does not that sound > > familiar, to those of us who have been promised to become the > > masters of natural law? And is not this the core of Satan's lie to > > man, that he can become like God? > > > > So, what evidence is there for one side or the other? I must > confess > > that I cannot find much if any empirical evidence for the divine > and > > universal nature of unredeemed man, but overwhelming evidence for > > his evil nature. And I can also report that I am seeing in myself > > and others the great cleansing and healing power of Christ, as I am > > yielding myself to His Lordship over my live. An intimately > personal > > working of Christ in me, an ongoing transformation in my heart that > > only God can do. > > > > This then brings us to the second point of separation: the > spiritual > > practice. The Christian spiritual practice is a matter of the will: > > the will to submit to the Lordship of Christ and His working in me. > > This is an ongoing commitment that I need to renew daily in > freedom, > > as my relationship with Christ expands and as His nature overtakes > > more and more of my mind, will and emotions. So, no technique is > > required. Rather, techniques have to be excluded as being a means > to > > assert self-rule over the rule of Christ. > > > > The Christian "techniques" of quiet prayer, that are often > > mentioned, are not techniques at all, but are modes of communion > > with Christ. It matters with whom you commune and in what spirit, > > not what you say and how often. > > > > To answer sparaig's question: No, TM doesn't prevent God from > making > > a connection. God is making connections all the time, to every > human > > being. But it does prevent the individual from receiving the > > fullness of it. God respects your free will, and He never imposes > > Himself on you. The choice is yours, communion with your Savior and > > Lord, or assertion of self. > > > > So much for now. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Kai ------------------------ Yahoo! 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