* * Hi, Lawson. I believe I see where you're coming from here, but it appears Jim is speaking of something else. From the POV of a small self lost/found in "Brahman" we could say small self surrendered into Big Self is virtually nothing and does nothing of itself -- "of myself I do nothing; not I but the Father which is in me". And "Brahman" is not a particular experience you can have, whether of UC or anything else. You don't "have" Brahman; Brahman "has" you! Yum! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@...> wrote: > > Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. > > CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC > experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not having UC. > > > L. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and > > > > everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking > > > > state it makes no sense at all. > > > > > > FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by > > > it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened > > > person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the > > > self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas. > > > > * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- > > when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears > > that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the > > other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the > > I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually > > does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to > > get done) anyhow. > > > > Who "does" a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching > > it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate > > entities, so they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are > > identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something! > > >
