--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> Doug:
> 
> "which is corroborated by discoveries in modern physics and neuroscience, 
> reveals an underlying cause: the build up of acute stress in the collective 
> consciousness of societies, which fuels violence in the actions of man and 
> imbalance in the events of nature."
> 
> Me:
> 
> There are scientific principles and theories in play here.  The most 
> important one is our mind's quest for order and explanation in a complex 
> world.  We see forms and shapes in random clouds and Jesus in a taco.  It is 
> what our mind does when faced with randomness or complexity.  It is 
> effortless and unconscious.  
> 
> The world seems like a safer, more understandable place if we can associate 
> the thoughts we have in our heads with bad things like war and natural 
> disasters. Oh, the opium of believing we can prevent these things from 
> happening with our all powerful minds, like magic.
> 
> And if you just spouted some religious belief that makes you feel all comfy 
> inside, I wouldn't be tempted to write.  But you had to throw in the term 
> "science", perverting its meaning in a dishonest attempt to prop up religious 
> beliefs as if they were based on established scientific method derived 
> theories. This is wrong.  I know who you learned it from.  The spin master 
> himself.
> 
> And this thoery that victimizes the victim, as if the people of Japan had it 
> coming from all their "stress" and "imbalance" compared to any other people 
> in the world is sick.  Do you really think that all the people in the drought 
> in Africa deserve this?
> 
> Well, the Hindu belief system does.  And I guess as a pseudo-outcaste Hindu 
> you might share the belief that all is well and wisely put, that no child 
> dying in pain didn't earn it in a past life.  And as much as I find that view 
> repugnant, it doesn't rise to the level of deceptive communication as 
> asserting that any of this nonsense is scientifically based.  
> 
> Own your beliefs.  You believe spiritual claims because it makes sense to you 
> and it makes you feel good. Fair enough.  But you can drop the drop the 
> pseudo-scientific 3 out of 4 dentists surveyed posturing.  It just doesn't 
> fly anymore. 
> 
>

Golly, what a grump.  You were a philosophy major?

 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > What do conflicts in the Middle East and natural disasters in Japan have in 
> > common?
> > 
> > Very little on the surface of things— one is man-made, the other 
> > nature-made.
> > 
> > But a closer analysis of the mechanics of how nature functions at the 
> > deepest levels from the perspective of the ancient Vedic science of 
> > consciousness, which is corroborated by discoveries in modern physics and 
> > neuroscience, reveals an underlying cause: the build up of acute stress in 
> > the collective consciousness of societies, which fuels violence in the 
> > actions of man and imbalance in the events of nature.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are conflicts in the Middle East
> > > > and disasters in Japan preventable?
> > > > 
> > > > Technologies of the ancient Vedic science of consciousness
> > > > can reduce violence in society, imbalances in nature
> > > > 
> > > > As predicted nearly 5 years ago, a large group of meditation experts in 
> > > > Iowa produces dramatic fall in US violent crime rates, number of 
> > > > destructive hurricanes
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > "I invite all well-wishers of peace to fully investigate the scientific 
> > > principles and the research which underlie these technologies and then, 
> > > if your questions are answered, to partner with us in promoting a world 
> > > of permanent peace." —Dr. John Hagelin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Earthquakes are interesting. There is very little that shakes your
> > > > > belief in Reality As You Know It as everything shaking under your 
> > > > > feet.
> > > > > The very term "terra firma" comes into question.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've been in a few. The biggest was in Agadir, Morocco in 1960. Years
> > > > > later, working in a tall office building in downtown L.A., I 
> > > > > experienced
> > > > > another one. It rattled windows and we could feel the whole building
> > > > > swaying, but it passed without damage, and we all stood around for a 
> > > > > few
> > > > > minutes talking about it, and pretending that we hadn't just seen our
> > > > > lives flash before our eyes. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Talk gravitated to the other 'quakes we'd experienced. One of the
> > > > > programmers I'd been working on the same floor as for some time
> > > > > mentioned Agadir, and I was surprised so I took him aside and followed
> > > > > up on it. Turns out he was originally Moroccan, forced to leave in the
> > > > > Jewish diaspora several years later, and now living and working in the
> > > > > US. As we chatted, we realized in a moment of mutual shock that many,
> > > > > many years earlier we had sat in the same room together. It was 
> > > > > during a
> > > > > showing of the film "Exodus" on the Air Force base my parents lived 
> > > > > at.
> > > > > A lot of Jewish residents of nearby Marrakesh had gotten permission to
> > > > > visit the base so that they could see the movie, which was naturally
> > > > > banned from local theaters. So it turned out that this fellow and I 
> > > > > had
> > > > > been sitting in the same movie theater. Go figure.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I moved from California to New York, one of the things in the 
> > > > > back
> > > > > of my mind was, "Well, at least I won't have to worry about 
> > > > > earthquakes
> > > > > any more." So what happens during my first week of work on the 40th
> > > > > floor of a NY office building? An earthquake. We were later told that
> > > > > the building was measured swaying four feet back and forth; I can
> > > > > certainly assure you that this is exactly what it felt like, from the
> > > > > 40th floor. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > The thing is, the earthquake itself was in Nova Scotia. As was 
> > > > > explained
> > > > > on the News in the days that followed, the East coast of the US is 
> > > > > even
> > > > > more susceptible to damage from a major earthquake than the West coast
> > > > > is. The basic infrastructure of West coast, because of the constant
> > > > > grinding against each other of the tectonic plates, is more fractured.
> > > > > The waves of an earthquake thus don't tend to travel very far, the
> > > > > energy being dissipated to some extent in the fractured ground. But on
> > > > > the East coast, the ground is more solid, so the effects of a large
> > > > > earthquake can travel much further -- hundreds of miles. So 
> > > > > Washington,
> > > > > D.C. was lucky. This one seems to have been localized, and in an area
> > > > > that confined its effects to a small area. In Agadir, a 'quake one 
> > > > > point
> > > > > lower than this one on the Richter scale destroyed a third of the 
> > > > > city.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And just to give our California dwellers pause, the Richter scale is 
> > > > > not
> > > > > the only measure. It is logarithmic, and thus illusory -- a 6.8 is 100
> > > > > times more powerful than a 5.8, and a 7.8 is 1000 times more powerful.
> > > > > But earthquakes, where this can be measured, are also rated by the
> > > > > distance that the fault line itself has shifted. For example, during 
> > > > > the
> > > > > San Francisco quake that burned down major portions of the city, the
> > > > > fault line in question only shifted a few inches.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When contemplating what the term "The Big One" could potentially mean
> > > > > for California, bear in mind that they are predictable. They occur in
> > > > > 150 to 200 year cycles. The last one was back during the Civil War.
> > > > > During that one, the entire San Andreas fault line shifted something
> > > > > like eight feet. According to historical records, it knocked almost
> > > > > every existing building in California off its foundation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Weird facts like this make me happy that I live in the Netherlands
> > > > > rather than California. We're pretty earthquake-free here. And it's 
> > > > > not
> > > > > as if a nation that is largely below sea level has anything to fear 
> > > > > from
> > > > > climate change and rising ocean levels. :-)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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