--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > > > The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an idea. > > The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is > > profoundly based in the physiology. The idea of not being enlightened > > is a story. Tell me where and how that idea "I am not awake" is known > > in the gut of the physiology. Tom > > The idea that there is an idea that you are not enlightened and it is > not an experience but an idea is also an idea. It's also a story.
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