--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis 
wrote:
> > 
> > > The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an 
> idea.
> > > The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is
> > > profoundly based in the physiology. The idea of not being 
> enlightened
> > > is a story. Tell me where and how that idea "I am not awake" is 
> known
> > > in the gut of the physiology. Tom
> > 
> > The idea that there is an idea that you are not enlightened and 
it 
> is 
> > not an experience but an idea is also an idea. It's also a story.
> 
> Same question, then: where and how is the experience of not being 
> enlightened felt in the physiology?

Where is "I am awake" felt in the physiology?





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