--- In [email protected], "mathatbrahman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --Thanks, there is a distinctive physiology of transcendance, at
> http://www.trnsnd.net/warpt.html

Or you can just do a medline search on "transcendental consciousness" 
OR "pure Consciousness" and see what pops up...

> 
> 
> - In [email protected], "hyperbolicgeometry" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "hyperbolicgeometry" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Get a synchronistic picture of your psychological state before 
and 
> > after meditation.  Pics change each minute and are sent in from 
> around 
> > the world:
> > http://www.humanclock.com
> > Click on to the square at top (view the clock); then scroll down 
to 
> > where 
> > it says "random" and click on to it.
> > Each minute will have a new pic.
> > 
> > On another topic, some of you may have seen Sri Ravi Shankar and 
> Dr. 
> > Herbert Benson on CNN (Shankar came to Atlanta while Benson was 
at 
> > Harvard, consulted as an academic "expert".).
> > Benson displayed his usual level of ignorance but this is to be 
> > expected...the average CNN viewer (expect for the Chrstian 
> > fundamentalists), wouldn't discriminate between various forms of 
> > meditation/concentration/prayer/breathing exercises.  Benson 
lumps 
> them 
> > all together under the rubric of the "relaxation response"; and 
> > declares them all to be of equal value depending upon which you 
> prefer 
> > coupled with your religious or non-religious background.
> >   I found it interesting that Benson borrowed an important 
concept 
> from 
> > TM (since he was initiated into it long ago): that if you are 
> > consciously aware of a thought, innocently recognize it without 
> using 
> > mental force to manipulate the mind; then allow the next thought 
to 
> > enter the mind...something like that (can't remember the exact 
> words 
> > Benson used but it had a distinctive TM/MMY flavor).
> >   Benson has carved out a distinctive academic niche for himself 
at 
> > Harvard by declaring his "they're all of equal value" manifesto.  
I 
> > suppose that just from a physiological viewpoing, using gross 
> > parameters of relaxation such as breathing amd heart rate, brain 
> waves, 
> > skin response, etc; such forms of meditation/prayers/breathing 
> > excercise might be somewhat equal with ballpark data; but the 
> notion 
> > of "transcendance" hasn't apparently dawned on Benson, 
> intellectually 
> > at least.  Maybe he's experienced TC but has concealed the fact.  
> After 
> > all, he has an academci career to protect and it's risky to 
> entertain 
> > ideas far from the mainstream of academia.




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