Why doubt your impression Tart? If there was something of value for you in our conversation you would have already found it and tossed it back to us in your own clever style. A Cliff notes summary would kill the value of the dialogue for me,which is the ride, not the destination.
Here you go: Robin believes that God existed and communicated his relationship to man through the birth of Jesus and the Catholic church with Thomas Aquinas being the go to guy for the details of that relationship. Curtis does not believe that there is adequate evidence for this claim or how one might be able to distinguish this God idea as the right one out of all the thousands man has proposed. Robin believes that God changed his relationship to man in the 40' with the bombing of that monastery and is no longer answering his phone. Curtis finds this even more of a stretch than the first claim. Robin believes that there are significant issues with the theory of evolution (although he generally accepts it) and that it is improperly being used as a justification for materialistic reductionism in science. Curtis says that the theory of evolution gives him a boner hard enough to drive in nails if a hammer was not available. (These are MY Cliff notes so there is gunna be at least one boner reference, OK?) Robin believes that Curtis lacks the ability to fully take on someone else's POV but instead runs his own routine over the person as if their POV didn't exist. Curtis believes that his powers of understanding other people's POVs are so far beyond the creator of the universe, that God himself appears like a provincial yokal with a native New Yorker having just arrived at Grand Central Station. God as rube: "Where all them TV stars live, I come here to see em." NYC native. "It is customary for you to bring a watch as a gift when visiting our TV stars. (Opens coat revealing selection) Here are the approved watches available at a discount to make sure you are well received at the star's homes. God (what a dipshit!) "Well OK then if you say so. I'd better buy a bunch cuz Ma has her heart set on seeing a whole slew of them stars." And scene. I think that about covers it, I hope Robin doesn't feel misrepresented. There was some pseudo gay banter that livened up the exchanges considerably, but if you aren't a fan of the filler, you wont enjoy those exchanges either. Don't sweat it Tart. There may only be some "there" there for a select few. And if it is only this select few who gains admittance into heaven for all of eternity, and if those who can't appreciate the lofty nature of these exchanges spend eternity in a place with the climate of Iraq in the Summer (but because of the fires it is a dry heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. --- In [email protected], tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but > what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for > myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the > first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. > > In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my > mind, am asking, "is there any 'there' there?" I am sure there is, as you > and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, > my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks "Oh Lord, where is the 'there' > there". I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase > -- and abort the mission. > > Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, > playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the > totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. > Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any > familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited > mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, "holy shit, I totally give up, > I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense > cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately." > > I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly > his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the > exchanges, there must be some "there" there. Though to be honest, at times I > can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be a rabbit hole, in his > long discourses with a few other sparing partners. But in whole, I enjoy his > insights and style. > > That said, and I ask sincerely, can one or all of you provide some some cliff > notes, a cartoon version, a list of key points, an annotated version (like > needed to read James Joyce or Sarte) of what themes, ideas, insights that you > find of value in these dialogues. (This is not a loaded question.) > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > Ditto on that. Sending my thanks to both of them for an intriguing and > > enlightening discussion. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> > > wrote: > > > I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. > > It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation > > invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience > > the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual > > approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a > > city. > > > > > > The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early > > on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in > > Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are > > evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, > > he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. > > Ding! > > > > > >
