I'm talking about shakti which is an energy. You should be experiencing it when you meditate. I can transfer that energy to someone else without saying a word, just by touching them. So explain that by NLP. You can't. They are going down the wrong road though they wouldn't be the first researchers to do that by any means. ;-)
On 11/06/2011 06:56 PM, johnt wrote: > Then what is it saying. Be precise I value tradition in the sense that it > preserves elements that are life supporting, it doesn't tell me how it works. > That's what modern psychologists are only beginning to try and do do. Vedic > masters were masters of what's now becoming NLP, however people just > parroting what they heard doesn't show understanding. > > What exactly do YOU mean by "charged" > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@...> wrote: >> Oh yes it does. Centuries of tantrics and yogis would argue with you on >> that. These guys you are talking about are blind men feeling an >> elephant. :-D >> >> On 11/06/2011 06:00 PM, johnt wrote: >>> "charge" is a nice ooga booga term that says nothing. It's only part of >>> philosophy not science unless you understand it in the sense of Rupert >>> sheldrake' morphic field, in which case your saying the same thing I am. >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote: >>>> That's a wild ass theory trying to make the puja sound "scientific". >>>> What the puja actually does is "charge" the mantra. In other traditions >>>> you are given the mantra by someone who has enough juice to "charge" the >>>> mantra with shakti without the need for a puja. Reciting a 3-4 minute >>>> puja takes it place. It would have taken years to create even a small >>>> army of TM teachers the traditional way. The traditional way is what >>>> Muktananda used and his instructors gave shaktipat along with the >>>> mantra. It is also the way my tantra teacher has instructed me to teach >>>> people. >>>> >>>> On 11/05/2011 11:48 PM, Denise Evans wrote: >>>>> Sheeeeeeet. Is that what "brainwashing" is? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: johnt<johnlasher20002000@> >>>>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:17 AM >>>>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why TM can't be learned from a book >>>>> >>>>> A TM initiation alters the brainwave pattern of the one performing the >>>>> puja. When the teacher then passes on the mantra to the person learning >>>>> meditation he also passes on a brainwave state by a process know in >>>>> neurophysiology as entrainment. Brainwave entrainment or "brainwave >>>>> synchronization," is any practice that aims to cause brainwave >>>>> frequencies to fall into step with a periodic stimulus having a frequency >>>>> corresponding to the intended brain-state. This is only one of the Neuro >>>>> effects of a TM initiation which is a very well crafted design of several >>>>> which lead to a self transcending effect of the mantra. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > >
