--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 I would say offhand that the double cone is actually 
> the central core of a torus (the Hiranyagarbha-field), which in 
turn 
> is one of the countless "Krishna-bubbles" or Universes, and so 
> on...:-)
> 
> The play of the three gunas is clearer when we see it as a full-
> fledged torus rather than as merely the central core. If (for 
> example) the energy is moving upward through the core, and out the 
> north pole and down around the torus-bubble, and then collapsing 
in 
> at the south pole to form a singularity at the core's center, we 
> could ascribe the coalescing, centripetal energy at the south-pole 
> to Vishnu (originally probably Indra), the rotating, radiating 
> energy at the singularity to Brahma, and the dispersing, 
> centtrifugal energy at the north-pole to Shiva (originally Rudra). 
> And yet nothing ever "happens" from the vantage-point of the 
Brahman-
> torus as a whole :-)

You have given me a wealth of information to explore directly, 
especially the coalescing of energies making up Shiva, Brahma, and 
Vishnu. I'm going to reread Bentov's book too.

Interesting note also about the Krishna bubble universes. Once in 
1981? as I was walking up the road, away from the TMO-Kansas City 
Capital building, it was early dawn on a Sunday I think, and I saw 
Krishna with his flute in a subtle sight vision. I ascribed it at 
the time to too many peanut m&m's the night before, as I come close 
to hallucinating if I eat too much sugar... 




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