Eh, as I said, I have a friend who is reasonably accomplished as a Vedic/Hindu 
scholar, who considers MMY to be the "real deal." YMMV of course.

Lawson

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:53 AM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > Well, you see, I think it is YOU who are missing MMY's nuances here.
> >
> > Certainly stress can have good and bad qualities (eustress and  
> > distress). However, anything that pulls one away from the quality  
> > of functioning of the nervous system where pure consciousness is  
> > always present, is stressful.
> >
> > That doesn't mean that it can't be fun, beneficial in its own way  
> > etc. only that it isn't pure consciousness. Of course, the point of  
> > the TM *program* is to alternate meditation, which approaches the  
> > state of pure consciousness, with regular activity, which is  
> > inherently stressful, so that eventually one can be in a state  
> > where pure consciousness is never lost. This doesn't mean that  
> > activity will cease to be stressful in the western sense, only that  
> > the nervous system has become strong enough to maintain pure  
> > consciousness, at least during relatively stressful activity.
> >
> > In a sense, you could say that all activity has become eustress- 
> > ish, though, of course, some activity is more inherently  
> > eustressful than other activity.
> 
> 
> I think you're missing what Mahesh was trying to say. He was  
> obviously attempting to put the idea of the purification of the nadis  
> into terms that westerners could understand, and at the same time  
> give it a veneer of respectability by attempting to make it look  
> "scientific". Two things though: the two are not reconcilable as  
> there is no (none, zero, zip) science on nadi-bindu-vayu and stress  
> and secondly Mahesh had little experiential knowledge of these deeper  
> and essential practices. This becomes manifestly obvious if you  
> listen to the tapes where M. tried to muddle his way thru these  
> descriptions of "stress" in the nadis - which are most likely ripped  
> straight out of Arthur Avalon's books. But it's clear he doesn't have  
> a clue to what he's talking about, but it does lend further credence  
> to the fact that he was prompted by western students prior to his  
> "revelations". Since he was caught at Estes Park doing this and we  
> have evidence up and through the Swiss period, we know his knowledge  
> was not self knowledge, but gleaned from common translations of  
> tantric texts.
> 
> So anyone who puts any validity into his "unstressing" schtick is  
> just fooling themselves.
>


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