Hi Xeno, Glad you enjoyed it. It has taken me awhile of watching and reflecting to write this down. As is often the case, it became quite clear once I decided to express it. If you want to discuss it more, that would be fun!
--- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote: > > This is a fascinating post and, if I have more time soon I would like to > address this and Judy's comment on my post. When this process happens, there > can be a lot of disorientation. Enlightenment can be like being sucked into a > black hole as all of your personal stuff is dissembled. Instinctively one > hangs onto this stuff of our ignorance, but the process in not under personal > control. We hang on because there is resistance to having these past knots in > us see the light of day. Maharishi and other teachers have said this > experience proceeds differently for different people, so one person's > experience cannot be mapped onto another's as if using a template. Perhaps > this is a measure of remaining 'stresses' in the system. Robin's case is > really intriguing. Futur.musik, this was a really cool post; it helped > illuminate what's happening to me by providing an alternate manner of > expressing it. > > --- In [email protected], "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > Hi Judy, you wrote, "You do understand that Robin does not claim to be > > enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare > > and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has > > made a huge effort since then to "de-enlighten" himself." > > > > After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his > > experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. > > That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always > > grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. > > > > There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self > > Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of > > life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of > > fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a > > permanent flame within and shines forth. > > > > If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and > > respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think > > this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual > > movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function > > of expansion. > > > > As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making > > them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the > > unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes > > more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and > > deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. > > Everything. > > > > At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The > > light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so > > pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming > > progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining > > exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the > > light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. > > > > We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. > > There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, > > but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) > > > > In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something > > else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal > > Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking > > out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so > > free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. > > > > It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to > > be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it > > will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and > > one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-) > > >
