--- In [email protected], "Yifu" <yifuxero@...> wrote: > > Thanks!...excellent poetry, I love it. > > featuring Alexandra Manukyan, in front of her "Aries": > http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2012/Manukyan/Manukyan_LG_at-work.jpg > >
Om, would you ask Alexandra to cover up her subjects. -Buck > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You that mourn your follies past, > > > > Precious hours and years, and years laid waste, > > > > Turn within, O turn and live, > > > > The Unified Field can still, can still forgive. > > > > > > > > Sweet Redeeming from within, > > > > Born on wings, on wings of love. > > > > > > No this common sentiment among the religious and "spiritual" is all about > > > payback for those who don't buy in to their beliefs. > > > > > > It isn't enough that they go to heaven or get enlightened or whatever. > > > The people who don't think like them need to be judged for "wasting" > > > their lives which conform to their own standards and values that you > > > don't share. > > > > > > I need no forgiveness. I resent the condescension that you assume that I > > > do. do you need forgiveness for not seeing life as I do? > > > > > > > Bleeding hearts defiled by sin, > > The Unified Field can make you clean; > > Contrite souls with guilt oppressed, > > The Unified Field can give, can give you rest. > > > > Sweet Redeeming from within, > > Born on wings, on wings of love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that there will be a judgment, > > > > > That there will be a judgment in that day. > > > > > O there will be a judgment in that day, > > > > > Om Sinner, where will you stand in that day? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that the sun will be darkened, > > > > > > That the sun will be darkened in that day. > > > > > > O the sun will be darkened in that day, > > > > > > Om sinner, where will you stand in that day? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that the earth will be burning, > > > > > > > That the earth will be burning in that day. > > > > > > > O the earth will be burning in that day, > > > > > > > Om sinner, where will you stand in that day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should find it extremely helpful having this resolution on > > > > > > > > sin as a FFL guideline, this resolution that sin would be that > > > > > > > > which weakens our expressed essence of soul perfection and > > > > > > > > degrades it into mortal enslavement. From that we can get > > > > > > > > appropriate public policy here about sin, sinning and sinners. > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Om Sinner, where will you run?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am heartened that both Maharishi and the Maharaj should > > > > > > > > > > > be in alignment with the FFL sin resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This alignment of both Maharishi and the Maharaja might > > > > > > > > > > well bring along all our TB supporters as a caucus block > > > > > > > > > > here for the FFL resolution about sin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the resolution, that is my experience and I see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Maharishi and the Maharaja are in alignment with > > > > > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda and the sin resolution, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that God is run out as the resolution reads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sit and meditate more on the soul and free-will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with this. However, I would urge you to not split > > > > > > > > > > > > > > over the soul and free-will but concur with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution on sin for what it is. Don't let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theisms withhold your support on the sin resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you may feel more in to this, I look to your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support of the FFL resolution on sin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Buck, there is disagreement here on the following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms. God, free-will, soul. Best of luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praying is like a rocking chair - it'll give you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something to do, but it won't get you anywhere. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gypsy Rose Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Gypsie Rose evidently never heard of > > > > > > > > > > > > > transcending meditations. Without spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience what could we expect? Of course a > > > > > > > > > > > > > meditation when well done is its own prayer that > > > > > > > > > > > > > brings all and only more clearly the grace of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > science of Ved (Unified Field) in a physiology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus will I lift my hands in prayer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear FFL Owner, Moderators and Members in good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > standing; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a sake of a more unified discussion here on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FairfieldLife@yahoo I wish to make a motion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we adopt a resolution of the definition of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'sin' as is proffered by Paramahansa Yogananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That here at FFL hence forth 'sin' shall be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known spiritually, as that which compromises > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self-mastery. That sin has its automatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect to the degree of the influence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of delusion with in it -involving no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > condemnation of an irate God. Man's free-will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions simply harmonize and strengthen the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressed essence of his soul perfection or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet save a trembling sinner, Unified Field > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whose hope still hov'ring round Thy word > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would light on some sweet promise there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some sure support of Nature against despair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My crimes, though great, cannot surpass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pow'r and glory of Thy grace; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great Unifying Field, Thy nature hath no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bound; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So let Thy pard'ning love be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show pity, O Unified Field, forgive; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let a repenting rebel live. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are not Thy mercies large and free? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May not a sinner trust in Thee?� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O Integrity, there are no sins. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Form or formless matters not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Presence always, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Especial location no necessity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 'Sin' requires a complex definition. It is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not a transgression against an arbitrary code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of behavior decreed by a whimsical God. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unified Field made human a spiritual being, a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soul endowed with an individualization of its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own nature. It gives to the soul, evolved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from its own Self, the instruments of a body > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a mind with which to perceive and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interact with the objects of a manifested > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If man lives in perfect harmony with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machinations of these principles, he remains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a spiritual being in charge of his body and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. Sin is that which compromises that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perfect self-mastery. It has its automatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect to the degree of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > influence of delusion with in it -involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no condemnation of an irate God. Man's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free-will actions simply harmonize and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthen the expressed essence of his soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perfection or weaken and degrade it into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mortal enslavement." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excerpt -Discourse 27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogananda's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Second Coming of Christ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Resurrection of Christ Within You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "O Unified Field, pardon me three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sins. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have in contemplation clothed in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thee who art formless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have described [in words] Thee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who art ineffable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And in visiting temples I have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignored > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thy omnipresence." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Judy, you wrote, "You do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand that Robin does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > claim to be enlightened and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seeking enlightenment, that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he thinks it's a snare and a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delusion, that he believes he was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightened decades ago and has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made a huge effort since then to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "de-enlighten" himself." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading a lot of what Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > writes about enlightenment and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his experience being enlightened, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he says he was witnessing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole time. That stuck out when I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read it. Enlightenment as it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grows, and it always grows if it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is real, eats up and integrates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witnessing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a period following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waking up or the stabilizing of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Self Realization, where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witnessing everything, seeing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frictionless flow of life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your silent place in it, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dominates perception. Freedom! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absence of fear! A great influx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of cosmic energy as the Atman or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul becomes a permanent flame > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within and shines forth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to stay there for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > awhile, then others can see your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light and respond to it. I'll not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go much further into Robin's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience but I think this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where he was during his leading > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of an alternative spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > movement. It was 100% genuine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the Soul carrying out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its function of expansion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the Atman continues to shine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forth, extending one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boundaries, making them less > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinct, melding one's identity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with that of the Cosmos, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unity between us and others and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything else in our experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes more obvious. As the soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continues to radiate outward from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deeper and deeper within us, that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cosmic energy we become permeates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything. Everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At that point, the lights seem to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go out! Holy shit, what happened? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The light we (the personal and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Impersonal self) are radiating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes so pervasive, inside and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out, that life is at once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transformed, becoming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progressively more interesting, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captivating and beautiful, while > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remaining exactly as it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before. So we no longer see the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contrast between the light that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are, and the light now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everywhere else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are no longer witnessing, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the witness has come out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to play. There is no longer the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > longing for *peak* experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we used to want, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead, it is *all* very much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to witness, there has to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be something distinct from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something else. There has to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unfettered ;-) bliss of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soul, the personal Being, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinct from everything else, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we are residing in Being, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking out as it were on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything else. People describe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witnessing as being so free! so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weightless almost, just in a big > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is an awesome feeling, but not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a complete one. Even the witness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be transcended in order to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for enlightenment to continue, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and continue it will. There is no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way to put the soul back to sleep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > once it wakes up, and one Day of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment lasts a very, very, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very long time! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
