Yes, it's a very subtle thing with virtuous spiritual life-supporting activity on the one hand, and then sinful life-denigrating on the other. If I could draw you a picture of people's subtle body systems that reflect the soul, and I ain't no artist, you'd be frightened at how ugly the dynamic of the sinful system is when you see it. It is not so subtle a difference between the two at all when you see it. It is huge.
> > Om, if you only knew. It is way more than 'transcending'. > Spiritually sin is what it is in the subtle bodies. The life lived. These > lists are pretty good in enumerating the parameters between virtuous and > sinful practices. > > > >snip> Sin is either meaningless as a concept or it must be a property of > > >god. > > > > No it need be neither necessarily, people knows it when they sees it too. > Commonly. These rasyannas are fairly universal codes are good examples. And > then you might have some asocial (sinful as we are defining more spiritually) > person come along in the extreme who clearly needs to be banished or > separated off (prison?) from folks in more civic virtue. Like this guy Ravi > here, except that the community here as formed does not have a way to protect > itself without Rick stepping in. Most civil societies separate off the > asocial to protect themselves. This community evidently is being held > hostage by sinful disgrace. > > > Please support the FairfieldLife sin resolution, > and then let's start to clean this place up. > -Buck > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Yifu" <yifuxero@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks!...excellent poetry, I love it. > > > > > > featuring Alexandra Manukyan, in front of her "Aries": > > > http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2012/Manukyan/Manukyan_LG_at-work.jpg > > > > > > > > > > Om, would you ask Alexandra to cover up her subjects. > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You that mourn your follies past, > > > > > > Precious hours and years, and years laid waste, > > > > > > Turn within, O turn and live, > > > > > > The Unified Field can still, can still forgive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet Redeeming from within, > > > > > > Born on wings, on wings of love. > > > > > > > > > > No this common sentiment among the religious and "spiritual" is all > > > > > about payback for those who don't buy in to their beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > It isn't enough that they go to heaven or get enlightened or > > > > > whatever. The people who don't think like them need to be judged for > > > > > "wasting" their lives which conform to their own standards and values > > > > > that you don't share. > > > > > > > > > > I need no forgiveness. I resent the condescension that you assume > > > > > that I do. do you need forgiveness for not seeing life as I do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bleeding hearts defiled by sin, > > > > The Unified Field can make you clean; > > > > Contrite souls with guilt oppressed, > > > > The Unified Field can give, can give you rest. > > > > > > > > Sweet Redeeming from within, > > > > Born on wings, on wings of love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that there will be a judgment, > > > > > > > That there will be a judgment in that day. > > > > > > > O there will be a judgment in that day, > > > > > > > Om Sinner, where will you stand in that day? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that the sun will be darkened, > > > > > > > > That the sun will be darkened in that day. > > > > > > > > O the sun will be darkened in that day, > > > > > > > > Om sinner, where will you stand in that day? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a long time heard that the earth will be burning, > > > > > > > > > That the earth will be burning in that day. > > > > > > > > > O the earth will be burning in that day, > > > > > > > > > Om sinner, where will you stand in that day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should find it extremely helpful having this resolution > > > > > > > > > > on sin as a FFL guideline, this resolution that sin would > > > > > > > > > > be that which weakens our expressed essence of soul > > > > > > > > > > perfection and degrades it into mortal enslavement. From > > > > > > > > > > that we can get appropriate public policy here about sin, > > > > > > > > > > sinning and sinners. > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Om Sinner, where will you run?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am heartened that both Maharishi and the Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be in alignment with the FFL sin resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This alignment of both Maharishi and the Maharaja might > > > > > > > > > > > > well bring along all our TB supporters as a caucus > > > > > > > > > > > > block here for the FFL resolution about sin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delineated in the resolution, that is my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Maharishi and the Maharaja are in alignment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Paramahansa Yogananda and the sin resolution, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that God is run out as the resolution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reads. Sit and meditate more on the soul and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free-will with this. However, I would urge you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to not split over the soul and free-will but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concur with the resolution on sin for what it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is. Don't let theisms withhold your support on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the sin resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you may feel more in to this, I look to your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support of the FFL resolution on sin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Buck, there is disagreement here on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following terms. God, free-will, soul. Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praying is like a rocking chair - it'll give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you something to do, but it won't get you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere. - Gypsy Rose Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Gypsie Rose evidently never heard of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transcending meditations. Without spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience what could we expect? Of course a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meditation when well done is its own prayer that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brings all and only more clearly the grace of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science of Ved (Unified Field) in a physiology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus will I lift my hands in prayer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear FFL Owner, Moderators and Members in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good standing; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a sake of a more unified discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here on FairfieldLife@yahoo I wish to make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a motion that we adopt a resolution of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definition of 'sin' as is proffered by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda, "That here at FFL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hence forth 'sin' shall be known > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritually, as that which compromises > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self-mastery. That sin has its automatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect to the degree of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > influence of delusion with in it -involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no condemnation of an irate God. Man's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free-will actions simply harmonize and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthen the expressed essence of his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soul perfection or weaken and degrade it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into mortal enslavement." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet save a trembling sinner, Unified > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Field > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whose hope still hov'ring round Thy word > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would light on some sweet promise there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some sure support of Nature against > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > despair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My crimes, though great, cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surpass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pow'r and glory of Thy grace; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great Unifying Field, Thy nature hath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no bound; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So let Thy pard'ning love be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show pity, O Unified Field, forgive; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let a repenting rebel live. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are not Thy mercies large and free? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May not a sinner trust in Thee?� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O Integrity, there are no sins. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Form or formless matters not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Presence always, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Especial location no necessity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 'Sin' requires a complex definition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a transgression against an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arbitrary code of behavior decreed by a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whimsical God. The Unified Field made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > human a spiritual being, a soul endowed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with an individualization of its own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nature. It gives to the soul, evolved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from its own Self, the instruments of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > body and a mind with which to perceive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and interact with the objects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manifested universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If man lives in perfect harmony with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machinations of these principles, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remains a spiritual being in charge of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his body and mind. Sin is that which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compromises that perfect self-mastery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has its automatic negative effect to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the degree of the influence of delusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with in it -involving no condemnation of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an irate God. Man's free-will actions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simply harmonize and strengthen the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressed essence of his soul perfection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or weaken and degrade it into mortal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enslavement." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excerpt -Discourse 27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogananda's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Second Coming of Christ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Resurrection of Christ Within You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "O Unified Field, pardon me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three sins. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have in contemplation clothed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in form > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thee who art formless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have described [in words] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thee who art ineffable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And in visiting temples I have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignored > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thy omnipresence." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Judy, you wrote, "You do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand that Robin does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not claim to be enlightened > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is not seeking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment, that he thinks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a snare and a delusion, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he believes he was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightened decades ago and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has made a huge effort since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then to "de-enlighten" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > himself." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading a lot of what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin writes about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment and his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience being enlightened, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he says he was witnessing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole time. That stuck out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when I read it. Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as it grows, and it always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grows if it is real, eats up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and integrates witnessing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a period following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waking up or the stabilizing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Self Realization, where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witnessing everything, seeing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the frictionless flow of life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and your silent place in it, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dominates perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Freedom! Absence of fear! A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great influx of cosmic energy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as the Atman or Soul becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a permanent flame within and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shines forth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to stay there for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > awhile, then others can see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your light and respond to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll not go much further into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin's experience but I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think this is where he was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during his leading of an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternative spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > movement. It was 100% genuine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding the Soul carrying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out its function of expansion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the Atman continues to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shine forth, extending one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boundaries, making them less > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distinct, melding one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > identity with that of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosmos, the unity between us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and others and everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else in our experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes more obvious. As the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soul continues to radiate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > outward from deeper and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deeper within us, that cosmic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > energy we become permeates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything. Everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At that point, the lights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to go out! Holy shit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what happened? The light we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (the personal and Impersonal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self) are radiating becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so pervasive, inside and out, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that life is at once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transformed, becoming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progressively more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting, captivating and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beautiful, while remaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly as it was before. So > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we no longer see the contrast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between the light that we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are, and the light now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everywhere else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are no longer witnessing, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or perhaps the witness has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > come out to play. There is no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > longer the longing for *peak* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiences that we used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want, but instead, it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *all* very much better.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to witness, there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be something distinct > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from something else. There > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be the unfettered ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bliss of the soul, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal Being, distinct from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything else, and we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > residing in Being, looking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out as it were on everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else. People describe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witnessing as being so free! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so weightless almost, just in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a big cloud of bliss, mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > almost empty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is an awesome feeling, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not a complete one. Even the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > witness has to be transcended > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order to for enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to continue, and continue it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will. There is no way to put > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the soul back to sleep once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it wakes up, and one Day of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment lasts a very, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very, very long time! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
