Von Neumann stated(in Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics) the 
following regarding the collapse of the wave function.


     "The rules of quantum mechanics are correct but there is only one system 
which may be treated with quantum mechanics, namely the entire material world. 
There exist external observers which cannot be treated within quantum 
mechanics, namely human (and perhaps animal) minds, which perform measurements 
on the brain causing wave function collapse".[18]


The book "Biocentrism" by Robert Lanza elaborates a version of Von Neumann's 
perspective that minds or consciousness is what causes
the collapse of the wave function.




--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shainm307" <shainm307@> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone else interested in how this works?
> 
> It sure interests me. I don't have a clue how it
> works.
> 
> > Anyone else curious on how reality manifests itself
> > and what determines differnt outcomes?  This is what
> > John Hagelin told us
> 
> What's what John Hagelin told us?
> 
> > but he made it clear that he isn't 100% certain
> 
> That's intriguing. I've never heard him say that
> about anything (but then I haven't been listening
> to whatever he's said lately).
> 
>  and
> > it's more comlicated than you can imagine.  He said
> > that it is an unnatural question but reality will
> > provide you with an answer.
> 
> That's pretty cryptic. Any idea what he means?
> 
> > He also said it could be an entity on the other side.
> 
> Whoa. What kind of "entity"? On the other side of what?
> And what's "it" referring to?
> 
> > also he said it's just the will of God. Anyone else
> > have their speculations on how this works.  I have
> > my own speculation but I'm probably wrong on something.
> 
> Why don't you post your speculation, give us something
> to bounce off of?
> 
> "Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it, 'But how can 
> it be like that?' because you will get 'down the drain,' into a blind alley 
> from which nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can be like 
> that."--Richard Feynman on the apparent absurdities of quantum behavior
> 
> "The chance is high that the truth lies in the fashionable direction. But, on 
> the off chance that it is in another direction — a direction obvious from an 
> unfashionable view of field theory — who will find it? Only someone who has 
> sacrificed himself by teaching himself quantum electrodynamics from a 
> peculiar and unfashionable point of view; one that he may have to invent for 
> himself."--Richard Feynman, Nobel lecture, 1965
>


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