Thank you, I was afraid that having written that post of mine was a wasted 
effort. And I apologize.

--- In [email protected], azgrey <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> But you see, Ann, my post was not even directed at you.
> 
> Your name and words appear nowhere in this post, only
> whose of RWC.
> 
> I have neither ill will nor malice towards you. Perhaps it is
> simply a case of you misreading? 
> 
> Perhaps if you re-read my post, and realize to whom it was 
> written, *you* will open your eyes, your mind and get smart. 
> 
> --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > You missed everything about my post. Read it again, open your eyes, your 
> > mind and get smart.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], azgrey <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So you are going with a "The devil made me do it." explanation.
> > > 
> > > n'est-ce pas?
> > > 
> > > Lack of succinctness often results in obfuscation.
> > > 
> > > Just sayin'.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How Robin Struck People—And Lied About it: An Open Letter to Barry 
> > > > Wright
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear Barry Wright,
> > > > 
> > > > It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, 
> > > > apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking 
> > > > someone—that is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said 
> > > > there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape 
> > > > exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of 
> > > > contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by 
> > > > denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are 
> > > > in effect implying—surely you know this—that you *never* struck anyone. 
> > > > This was your intent, right, Robin?
> > > > 
> > > > It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this 
> > > > accusation knowing it was false—if it had been true, Vaj would be able 
> > > > to convince me very easily of this—and yet, then and there, admitted 
> > > > that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this 
> > > > practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to 
> > > > be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the 
> > > > context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so 
> > > > hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck 
> > > > people—on rare occasions—inside the other, more intimate and personal 
> > > > context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When 
> > > > almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in 
> > > > the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context 
> > > > within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive 
> > > > and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen 
> > > > accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he 
> > > > was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now 
> > > > what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones 
> > > > move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context 
> > > > within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, 
> > > > however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my 
> > > > sincere and I believe truthful recollection.
> > > > 
> > > > Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came 
> > > > about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master 
> > > > (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these 
> > > > impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in 
> > > > the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could 
> > > > not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human 
> > > > soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic 
> > > > catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; 
> > > > it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had 
> > > > created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from 
> > > > Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized 
> > > > that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation 
> > > > I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were 
> > > > not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*.
> > > > 
> > > > From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my 
> > > > enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my 
> > > > Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an 
> > > > hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions 
> > > > flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, 
> > > > defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance 
> > > > where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, 
> > > > strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the 
> > > > crux of the matter, Barry.
> > > > 
> > > > These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then 
> > > > pretty much inspired the context out of which I then acted—they 
> > > > evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each 
> > > > individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in terms 
> > > > of individuation of one's experience through a true existential 
> > > > willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:—Also—*this is the key 
> > > > point, Barry*&#151;these same celestial beings made me see each human 
> > > > being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels warred 
> > > > with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's 
> > > > innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of 
> > > > their purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some 
> > > > weakness or distortion inside of them *through behaving in a particular 
> > > > mode*.The mode so chosen was the creation of the fallen angel. Each 
> > > > person's mode was unique. 'Mode' here representing the inauthentic 
> > > > presentation of themselves. 
> > > > 
> > > > The specific pattern of an individual's mode, then, revealed the 
> > > > influence of these fallen angels (or rather, one specific and unique 
> > > > fallen angel) upon this person, and it was my evident destiny to 
> > > > interrupt, to challenge, to confront the fallen angels as they battled 
> > > > with me, and the person's soul for domination over that person.
> > > > 
> > > > You understand, then, Barry, that the beings who had created my 
> > > > enlightenment made me actually apprehend each human being who I 
> > > > encountered as being subject to this fearsome temptation and tyranny. 
> > > > And those who had not passed through the seminar, or pre-seminar 
> > > > experience, were dupes of this hegemonic power of these fallen angels. 
> > > > Now, as it happens, almost every person I knew was a victim to some 
> > > > extent of unwittingly identifying with these fallen angels, falsely 
> > > > assuming that what the fallen angel insinuated who they were, and how 
> > > > they had to act, was actually originating in the substance and 
> > > > integrity of their own individuality. The person, then, never suspected 
> > > > there was a preternatural conspiracy going on which was the attempt to 
> > > > force a person to falsify themselves (and each person came to sense 
> > > > this dissimulation deep from within themselves) such as to cover up and 
> > > > conceal their weakness, their ultimate flaw. To transcend one's 
> > > > compensatory mode became the desideratum.
> > > > 
> > > > A seminar and before that the pre-seminar reality, was the process 
> > > > precipitated inside the context of reading off reality such as to 
> > > > create the actual metaphysical context within which *all that I have 
> > > > described here became a physical perception for everyone present*. This 
> > > > meant that the context was not actually under my control at all. It was 
> > > > a context—I suppose like TM is subject to the mantras (or what 
> > > > Maharishi refers to earlier in his history as the Vedic gods)—that 
> > > > imposed itself on all of us. Even myself. What unfolded in front of our 
> > > > eyes was the actual opening up of creation—seemingly—and what I was 
> > > > doing was merely a systematic, mechanical, and objective process 
> > > > whereby the truth of what was actually the case—with each individual 
> > > > soul intrinsically subject to this exploration—becoming intricately and 
> > > > physically revealed before everyone. There were no individual 
> > > > differences in what we all experienced. It was as clear and 
> > > > unmistakable as a change in perception effected by hallucinogens, only 
> > > > in this case, what happened to everyone's consciousness in that room 
> > > > was virtually identical. Everyone experienced the same thing. Everyone 
> > > > saw, understood, recognized what I was doing in confronting someone. It 
> > > > all occurred very naturally as it were, very intelligibly, with ultra 
> > > > metaphysical clarity, and the process obeyed laws of its own. Far more 
> > > > compelling than even the laws which would have protected or sustained 
> > > > someone in that state which would presumably not be susceptible to this 
> > > > kind of context.
> > > > 
> > > > We simply broke open the reality which was there. Once we did, reality 
> > > > took over and conducted the course of the drama through my enlightened 
> > > > state of consciousness, and presumed consummated individuation. (As it 
> > > > would turn out, there was more wrong with me than anyone who "came to 
> > > > the microphone". But no one got to see this. But I did, during this 25 
> > > > year ordeal of de-enlightening myself.)
> > > > 
> > > > Now under the irresistible and inexorable inspiration of this 
> > > > process—conducted by powers beyond myself, but enabled to articulate 
> > > > themselves through this orchestration of reality through my Unity 
> > > > Consciousness—the actual fallen being which had control over a given 
> > > > person—obstructing, inhibiting, interfering with the ability of that 
> > > > person to truly individuate themselves within the authenticity of who 
> > > > they actually were—independent of this fallen angel—would make its 
> > > > presence known, even coming right out and making itself visible in the 
> > > > face of the person.
> > > > 
> > > > This produced what became the classic state of "having gone cosmic". 
> > > > And a person in this state was 'seen' unavoidably, choicelessly, in 
> > > > terms of their unique problem in standing up to the power and influence 
> > > > of the fallen angel which was attempting to keep them from becoming 
> > > > 'innocent', becoming the person they actually were destined to be. 
> > > > Separated from that fallen angel.
> > > > 
> > > > If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation 
> > > > of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in 
> > > > fact defending or upholding the integrity of themelves in resisting the 
> > > > beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenment—consciously as 
> > > > it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angel—I might, on 
> > > > occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this took 
> > > > the form sometimes of striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were 
> > > > struck. I hardly think it was more than this. And this was not 
> > > > something that happened on a regular basis. It was in extremis. But we 
> > > > shall see if this testimony is contradicted by someone who was there.
> > > > 
> > > > This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It 
> > > > was an inspired—and much resisted (I hated it)—response in me in order 
> > > > to facilitate the process whereby  a person could experience 
> > > > liberation—even momentarily—from their trance caused by their being 
> > > > identified with the particular fallen angel which had been chosen 
> > > > somehow to present this formidable and ultimate existential challenge 
> > > > to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who they really were.
> > > > 
> > > > Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my 
> > > > enlightenment, to see that once I became enlightened on that mountain 
> > > > above Arosa, that my perception had been played such that I could only 
> > > > apprehend each human being in terms of this cosmic battle between good 
> > > > and evil. Now I am able to see each person absolutely on their own, 
> > > > without respect to 'the demonic'. And therefore I am sorry for all that 
> > > > I did which amounted to being determined by this hallucination. Which 
> > > > especially included on occasion trying to shock the person out of his 
> > > > or her identification with the fallen angel which was tormenting and 
> > > > deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, you will realize from this analysis, that whenever this 
> > > > event happened, no one so much as winced. Not because they were 
> > > > brainwashed, but rather became everyone present sensed the intelligence 
> > > > and  inspiration behind this act. The act, then, simply occurred with a 
> > > > complex process which made itself understood as being inevitable and 
> > > > salutary in the extreme. It was harrowing, it was exhilarating, it was 
> > > > dangerous, it was mysterious, it was terrifying. But for everyone 
> > > > present it was very very real. And, I have to say it: right.
> > > > 
> > > > Although of course everyone realizes in retrospect it was wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it 
> > > > was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. 
> > > > Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never 
> > > > before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a 
> > > > single person leaving a seminar.
> > > > 
> > > > It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny 
> > > > something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, 
> > > > probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the 
> > > > appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. 
> > > > But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing 
> > > > it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was 
> > > > accused of in one context—which was true: I did not strike anyone 
> > > > during a seminar—while at the same time feeling an obligation to 
> > > > acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happen—on rare occasions—in a 
> > > > quite different and more intimate context.
> > > > 
> > > > I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally 
> > > > culpable in having acted as I have. 
> > > > 
> > > > Robin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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