Your post was in no way a wasted effort. Far, far from it in fact. Your voice is one of freshness and honesty. I thank you for that. You truly do add much to FFL.
Apology accepted. Again, I have no ill will toward you. I also hold none toward Maskedzebra. I was simply making a pointed statement. Au revoir, Ann. You seem like a very cool person. --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Thank you, I was afraid that having written that post of mine was a wasted > effort. And I apologize. > > --- In [email protected], azgrey <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > But you see, Ann, my post was not even directed at you. > > > > Your name and words appear nowhere in this post, only > > whose of RWC. > > > > I have neither ill will nor malice towards you. Perhaps it is > > simply a case of you misreading? > > > > Perhaps if you re-read my post, and realize to whom it was > > written, *you* will open your eyes, your mind and get smart. > > > > --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > You missed everything about my post. Read it again, open your eyes, your > > > mind and get smart. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], azgrey <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So you are going with a "The devil made me do it." explanation. > > > > > > > > n'est-ce pas? > > > > > > > > Lack of succinctness often results in obfuscation. > > > > > > > > Just sayin'. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How Robin Struck PeopleAnd Lied About it: An Open Letter to Barry > > > > > Wright > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Barry Wright, > > > > > > > > > > It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in > > > > > fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking > > > > > someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj > > > > > said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such > > > > > tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple > > > > > matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But > > > > > Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a > > > > > seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you > > > > > *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? > > > > > > > > > > It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this > > > > > accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be > > > > > able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, > > > > > admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged > > > > > in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which > > > > > would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of > > > > > just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, > > > > > since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that > > > > > in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more > > > > > intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the > > > > > formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my > > > > > enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from > > > > > the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's > > > > > blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must > > > > > assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the > > > > > spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having > > > > > determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all > > > > > what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay > > > > > with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did > > > > > in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never > > > > > necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe > > > > > truthful recollection. > > > > > > > > > > Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, > > > > > came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the > > > > > Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, > > > > > these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to > > > > > me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment > > > > > could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the > > > > > human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the > > > > > Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this > > > > > revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the > > > > > whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since > > > > > I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. > > > > > Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my > > > > > ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings > > > > > were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had > > > > > deceived me*. > > > > > > > > > > From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my > > > > > enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of > > > > > my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an > > > > > hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions > > > > > flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, > > > > > defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent > > > > > instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and > > > > > authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we > > > > > get to the crux of the matter, Barry. > > > > > > > > > > These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then > > > > > pretty much inspired the context out of which I then actedthey > > > > > evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each > > > > > individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in > > > > > terms of individuation of one's experience through a true existential > > > > > willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:Also*this is the key > > > > > point, Barry*—these same celestial beings made me see each human > > > > > being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels warred > > > > > with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's > > > > > innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of > > > > > their purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some > > > > > weakness or distortion inside of them *through behaving in a > > > > > particular mode*.The mode so chosen was the creation of the fallen > > > > > angel. Each person's mode was unique. 'Mode' here representing the > > > > > inauthentic presentation of themselves. > > > > > > > > > > The specific pattern of an individual's mode, then, revealed the > > > > > influence of these fallen angels (or rather, one specific and unique > > > > > fallen angel) upon this person, and it was my evident destiny to > > > > > interrupt, to challenge, to confront the fallen angels as they > > > > > battled with me, and the person's soul for domination over that > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > You understand, then, Barry, that the beings who had created my > > > > > enlightenment made me actually apprehend each human being who I > > > > > encountered as being subject to this fearsome temptation and tyranny. > > > > > And those who had not passed through the seminar, or pre-seminar > > > > > experience, were dupes of this hegemonic power of these fallen > > > > > angels. Now, as it happens, almost every person I knew was a victim > > > > > to some extent of unwittingly identifying with these fallen angels, > > > > > falsely assuming that what the fallen angel insinuated who they were, > > > > > and how they had to act, was actually originating in the substance > > > > > and integrity of their own individuality. The person, then, never > > > > > suspected there was a preternatural conspiracy going on which was the > > > > > attempt to force a person to falsify themselves (and each person came > > > > > to sense this dissimulation deep from within themselves) such as to > > > > > cover up and conceal their weakness, their ultimate flaw. To > > > > > transcend one's compensatory mode became the desideratum. > > > > > > > > > > A seminar and before that the pre-seminar reality, was the process > > > > > precipitated inside the context of reading off reality such as to > > > > > create the actual metaphysical context within which *all that I have > > > > > described here became a physical perception for everyone present*. > > > > > This meant that the context was not actually under my control at all. > > > > > It was a contextI suppose like TM is subject to the mantras (or what > > > > > Maharishi refers to earlier in his history as the Vedic gods)that > > > > > imposed itself on all of us. Even myself. What unfolded in front of > > > > > our eyes was the actual opening up of creationseeminglyand what I > > > > > was doing was merely a systematic, mechanical, and objective process > > > > > whereby the truth of what was actually the casewith each individual > > > > > soul intrinsically subject to this explorationbecoming intricately > > > > > and physically revealed before everyone. There were no individual > > > > > differences in what we all experienced. It was as clear and > > > > > unmistakable as a change in perception effected by hallucinogens, > > > > > only in this case, what happened to everyone's consciousness in that > > > > > room was virtually identical. Everyone experienced the same thing. > > > > > Everyone saw, understood, recognized what I was doing in confronting > > > > > someone. It all occurred very naturally as it were, very > > > > > intelligibly, with ultra metaphysical clarity, and the process obeyed > > > > > laws of its own. Far more compelling than even the laws which would > > > > > have protected or sustained someone in that state which would > > > > > presumably not be susceptible to this kind of context. > > > > > > > > > > We simply broke open the reality which was there. Once we did, > > > > > reality took over and conducted the course of the drama through my > > > > > enlightened state of consciousness, and presumed consummated > > > > > individuation. (As it would turn out, there was more wrong with me > > > > > than anyone who "came to the microphone". But no one got to see this. > > > > > But I did, during this 25 year ordeal of de-enlightening myself.) > > > > > > > > > > Now under the irresistible and inexorable inspiration of this > > > > > processconducted by powers beyond myself, but enabled to articulate > > > > > themselves through this orchestration of reality through my Unity > > > > > Consciousnessthe actual fallen being which had control over a given > > > > > personobstructing, inhibiting, interfering with the ability of that > > > > > person to truly individuate themselves within the authenticity of who > > > > > they actually wereindependent of this fallen angelwould make its > > > > > presence known, even coming right out and making itself visible in > > > > > the face of the person. > > > > > > > > > > This produced what became the classic state of "having gone cosmic". > > > > > And a person in this state was 'seen' unavoidably, choicelessly, in > > > > > terms of their unique problem in standing up to the power and > > > > > influence of the fallen angel which was attempting to keep them from > > > > > becoming 'innocent', becoming the person they actually were destined > > > > > to be. Separated from that fallen angel. > > > > > > > > > > If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation > > > > > of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were > > > > > in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themelves in > > > > > resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my > > > > > enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with > > > > > the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such > > > > > an identification. And this took the form sometimes of striking them. > > > > > Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it was more > > > > > than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular > > > > > basis. It was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is > > > > > contradicted by someone who was there. > > > > > > > > > > This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It > > > > > was an inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in > > > > > order to facilitate the process whereby a person could experience > > > > > liberationeven momentarilyfrom their trance caused by their being > > > > > identified with the particular fallen angel which had been chosen > > > > > somehow to present this formidable and ultimate existential challenge > > > > > to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who they really were. > > > > > > > > > > Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my > > > > > enlightenment, to see that once I became enlightened on that mountain > > > > > above Arosa, that my perception had been played such that I could > > > > > only apprehend each human being in terms of this cosmic battle > > > > > between good and evil. Now I am able to see each person absolutely on > > > > > their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And therefore I am sorry > > > > > for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this > > > > > hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock > > > > > the person out of his or her identification with the fallen angel > > > > > which was tormenting and deceiving them, even if they appeared > > > > > oblivious to this truth. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you will realize from this analysis, that whenever this > > > > > event happened, no one so much as winced. Not because they were > > > > > brainwashed, but rather became everyone present sensed the > > > > > intelligence and inspiration behind this act. The act, then, simply > > > > > occurred with a complex process which made itself understood as being > > > > > inevitable and salutary in the extreme. It was harrowing, it was > > > > > exhilarating, it was dangerous, it was mysterious, it was terrifying. > > > > > But for everyone present it was very very real. And, I have to say > > > > > it: right. > > > > > > > > > > Although of course everyone realizes in retrospect it was wrong. > > > > > > > > > > When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it > > > > > was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. > > > > > Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never > > > > > before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a > > > > > single person leaving a seminar. > > > > > > > > > > It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny > > > > > something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, > > > > > probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the > > > > > appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. > > > > > But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing > > > > > it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was > > > > > accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone > > > > > during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to > > > > > acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin > > > > > a quite different and more intimate context. > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am > > > > > morally culpable in having acted as I have. > > > > > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
