--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity with New "Intelligent 
Falling" 
> > Theory
> > 
> > http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2
> 
> Funny stuff.
> 
> But I find it ironic that all of us here on this "TM" forum are 
> joining in the jibes.  After all, "creative intelligence" and SCI
> was virtually the same attempt at secularizing something spiritual 
> and religious...and didn't we all participate in it?

I supported the court decision against teaching
TM in public high schools, actually.

But there *is* a difference between the version of
Intelligent Design that is currently being pushed
and SCI.  This version of ID is said to be *an
alternative theory* to that of evolution.

In contrast, evolution could be taught just as it
is now in the context of SCI; there's no 
incompatibility, no "alternative" quality at all.
Evolution would be considered to be an expression
of creative intelligence.

Intelligent Design in its more generic form, as opposed
to the fundie version, doesn't require belief in *an
intelligent divine being*.  In that sense, SCI is indeed
very similar.

SCI is borderline where the First Amendment is concerned,
and the courts were right to err on the side of caution,
IMHO.  But the fundie version of ID is a big step *over*
the line.

If the same legal standards are applied to fundie ID
as were applied to TM/SCI in New Jersey, ID will never
get through.





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