--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: <snip> > > > > SCI, as I noted, simply sees evolution, > > > > with all its apparent randomness, as an expression of > > > > creative intelligence; randomness is part of the > > > > design. > > > > > > > > Fundie ID can't tolerate the notion of randomness. > > > > > > There IS no randomness in nature and SCI certainly doesn't say > > > that. Where did you get that idea? > > > > Evolution involves random mutations, Shemp. > > "randomness" and "entropy" are constructs to explain perfect > orderliness that limited consciousness can't comprehend the > orderliness and perfection in.
Think that could be why I said "*apparent* randomness," Shemp? That's why Einstein didn't like > quantum mechanics; the idea that you can't predict with 100% > certainty where an electron will be at any point just didn't sit > comfortably with him. > > The fact that science can's predict where a particular electron is > going to be at any particular moment -- only the PROBABILITY of > where it will be -- doesn't mean there isn't 100% orderliness and > intelligence guiding the placement and direction of that particular > election, only that WE, with our limited consciousness and limited > scientific knowledge, resources and equipment, can't figure out > where it will be. But "nature" or wholeness or whatever you want > to call it DOES know exactly where that electron will be. You're preaching to the converted. I don't have any problem with this, the fundies do. <snip> > > > > There are perfectly respectable scientists who > > > > believe in the more abstract, nonfundie version > > > > of Intelligent Design, including Einstein, but > > > > who actively reject the notion of a Designer > > > > doing any tweaking. > > > > > > No, you got it wrong. Einstein was very much in the camp of > > > the Fundies as YOU describe them above when you said "Fundies > > > can't tolerate the notion of randomness". Einstein > > > hated "randomness" > > > and said as such when he rejected the idea of quantum > > > mechanics: "God does not play dice with the universe" > > > > Different issue entirely. > > Actually, the "randomness" observed in any rhealm of scientific > enquiry is pretty much similar to the so-called "randomness" of > quantum mechanics in that they are all considered "random". Did he disagree with evolution? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
