--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Though it's not good to be judgmental, maybe at least to be > judgmental on the positive side, can be useful, once in a while.
I'm unconvinced that it's not good to be judgmental. Judgment is *not* necessarily a weighing of "right and wrong," "good and evil," black and white. It's not necessarily a process of filing complex events into simplistic pigeonholes. It can be a process in which both intellect and intuition and awareness of the general sensibilities of the real world are involved, not with the goal of assigning *blame*, but as a possible analysis of cause and effect (as Shemp pointed out), of the relative chances of success of a certain approach, or of just trying to determine whether something is valuable enough to continue to deserve one's attention. > Like, many have mentioned, Tony, though I have never met him > personally, seems to be the most authentic of the bunch. > > He does have a dignity, and a radiance, emanating from him. > and a sense of Unity, felt in his presence. Don't know. Never met the dude, don't expect to. Bottom line for me is that he has allowed himself to be dressed up as a clown and called something he is not -- a king -- by someone who is not by any stretch of the imagination a kingmaker. > Also, reading between the lines, and feeling the affection and > admiration Maharishi expresses toward him, I would suspect that > Mr. Nader is experiencing some kind of Unity Consciousness. I make no hard assumptions about *anyone's* state of consciousness in the TM movement, not even Maharishi's. I never assumed, even when he was a teacher, that he was enlightened. If I had to apply judgment to that assessment now, given what I've experienced and learned in the time since TM, I would have to say that nothing I ever heard, saw, or experienced around him leads me to believe that he is even in established (permanent) CC. As for Tony -- don't know and don't care. A clown in unity is still a clown. > As far as the golden crown, perhaps in the Lebanese part of the > world, I see stranger costumes, than this; > > And in his country, this garb might not seem outrageous at all. According to Lebanese I've worked with, who happened to see photos of him and commented on them in my presence, it is considered even more outrageous there. > I think suits and ties get pretty boring after a while. > > And the kids seem to be into the hippie thing coming back. Dressing like kings and calling people "rajahs" isn't "hippie," it's megalomania. > Sari's are beautiful; > > For the girls. To each his own. I've always thought it was a total affectation, and it is viewed as such by the majority of people I've met in spiritual movements. Indian women wearing saris, no problem. Western women wear- ing saris -- total affectation, total turnoff. > Actually, what was so strange; > > About the conference, was having so many kings, rajas, > > Present at once. > > Usually Kings like to be Kings, and Singular. > > So, even at Arthur's, or Jesus', or JFK, or MLK, they were > singular. > > Tony is the only one I see, now, in the group - with the > charisma, of a King. You see one more than I do. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
