--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> [...]
> > I've never met Mr. Hagelin. I suspect that if you got him away from the
> > TM movement he might be a nice guy. But a scientist? Never. He owes
> > his salary and the very fabric of his life to the TM movement he shills
> > for. I just thought that because his name is coming up here with
> > increased frequency, lurkers might want to know who exactly is being
> > cited as if the people citing him believed he was actually credible, and
> > thus be able to better form their own judgments of his credibility.
> > 
> > Carry on.
> >
> 
> John's career THESE days involves the TM organization. In his early days, he 
> was very well respected as a theoretical physicist and this included much of 
> his time at MIU (before the name change).
> 
> 
> L.
>

Barry, Lawson has a point here.  John H changed careers long ago, which does 
not negate his brilliance as a scientist.  And if he is carrying some of that 
glory into  the TMO, well that is the nature of how thing work.  We do respect 
top people in their fields.  It is pretty certain that John is not objective 
about TM and the whole Vedic belief system and I think that is what is annoying 
you and creates a potential for peoples being misled. For some, his words carry 
the weight of science, when they are only beliefs.  I assume most people know 
that, but maybe not.........and he should be careful to qualify his remarks.

 I am guessing that John is a real devotee, that he met Maharishi and that was 
it for him.  In fact, he gave up his career to follow his heart.  I hope he is 
well compensated, because - just guessing here - he spends a Lot of time doing 
TM stuff.  My wish is that the TM teachers who have generated all this income 
for the TMO are and were well compensated, too.  My guess is that John would be 
in favor of that.


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