--- In [email protected], "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > I think it is sinful, the carping that you haters and > detractors are doing on Hagelin here. He's a good guy and > you are sandbagging anonymously on a public forum someone > who is doing some very high-minded good work who happens > to be modern, spiritual and a scientist. What a bunch of > mean-spirited braying sophist ignorant asses. This list > could use some firm moderation. > -Buck in the Dome
I've always been fascinated by a phenomenon that seems counter-intuitive -- the Abused-Abuser Flip-Flop. You know, the way kids who grow up the victims of child abuse frighteningly often grow up to be adults who abuse their own children. On one level, it just does not compute. On another, more compassionate level, I understand that on unconscious levels, humans are still just monkeys, emulating the behaviors they see around them. What I see as a similar flip-flop is how people who have themselves been victims of narrow-minded bias, discrimination and/or persecution, and attempts to censor them often then turn around and do the same thing to others. As often happens to me when reading FFL, Buck's post reminded me of a song by Bruce Cockburn. It's as insightful and relevant today as it was when he first wrote it in 1981: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uBiXTlIMg What's been done in the name of Jesus? What's been done in the name of Buddha? What's been done in the name of Islam? What's been done in the name of man? What's been done in the name of liberation? And in the name of civilization? And in the name of race? And in the name of peace? Everybody Loves to see Justice done On somebody else Can you tell me how much bleeding It takes to fill a word with meaning? And how much, how much death It takes to give a slogan breath? And how much, how much, how much flame Gives light to a name For the hollow darkness In which nations dress? Everybody Loves to see Justice done On somebody else Everybody's seen the things they've seen We all have to live with what we've been When they say charity begins at home They're not just talking about a toilet and a telephone Got to search the silence of the soul's wild places For a voice that can cross the spaces These definitions that we love -- create -- These names for heaven, hero, tribe and state Everybody Loves to see Justice done On somebody else
