--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 8/25/05 12:57 PM, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > With all the craziness in the TMO over the past 20 years, I 
> have
> > > > concluded that the purpose of all the madness is just that: 
MMY
> > > > wants us to be our own masters because to follow the 
silliness
> > > > that's coming out of the TMO is completely irrational. So 
the 
> > only
> > > > conclusion reasonable people must come up with is: ditch it 
> all 
> > and
> > > > follow your own heart.
> > > 
> > > The only problem with that is MMY has not given the tools for 
> > mastery of
> > > anything--he's only conditioned people that his overpriced 
> > techniques can
> > > provide his definition of enlightenment (which they are 
> > conditioned to
> > > believe provide such mastery).
> > 
> > I disagree.
> > 
> > For years, it was just: "20 minutes twice a day and then go out 
> into 
> > the market place and live your life according to your own common 
> > sense, culture and traditions".
> > 
> > It was those around him that kept asking him: "Yes, that's all 
> fine 
> > and good, Maharishi, but when are we going to get the real, 
secret 
> > knowledge?" 
> > 
> > And for years he kept saying: "there IS no secret knowledge; 
this 
> is 
> > it: TM.  That's all you need."   And those around him kept 
> > saying: "Sure, right, wink, wink, nudge, nudge...but when do we 
> get 
> > the really GOOD stuff, Maharishi?"
> > 
> > And he kept repeating over and over and over again: this is it, 
> > you've got it all: TM...and those around him kept asking for the 
> > real stuff.
> > 
> > Well, I think the True Believers (an oxymoron if ever there was 
> one) 
> > around MMY finally wore him down and so he said: they aren't 
> > listening to me.  They want "the real stuff"?  Okay, I guess I 
> have 
> > to give them "the real stuff"...and so off we went with sidhis, 
> > architecture, candy bars, honey, political parties, etc.
> > 
> > I believe -- like Dorothy in the Wizard of OZ who always had the 
> > ability to get back to Kansas anytime she wanted -- we have 
always 
> > had the tools that you mention, only we've never wanted to use 
> them 
> > and to break free of our own self-imposed "we are followers of 
> > Maharishi and we'll do whatever he wants us to" mindset.  I 
don't 
> > think MMY wanted that kind of relationship with the thousands 
> > of "followers" in the TMO, only a select few.
> > 
> > So we do have the tools
> 
> Agreed. Though I did find that the Sidhis were very valuable in 
> speeding up the purification of specific channels of my nervous 
> system, resulting in the ability to have GC experiences. TM as we 
> know works in a more wholistic fashion.

Me, too!  I love the Sidhis and the flying technique.  But they are 
adjuncts, that's all...




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