--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: <snip> > > After all, when the subject of the Inquisition came up on > > FFL, he said, "Jesus, it feels good to align myself with > > Torquemada: I just love the psychology of the Inquisition." > > One of his other quotes on the subject was, "I have read the > > major books on the Inquisition: there is a case to be made > > for this institution." He tried to "balance" this statement > > by saying that "Hell is worse than the Inquisition" and > > suggesting that the Inquisition might not be appropriate > > in today's age, but he went out of his way to defend both > > the institution in its day and his "main man" Aquinas for > > supporting it. > > Unbelievable, disgusting, but I just looked one quote up, > and it is true!
If it was the Torquemada remark, that was an excellent example of Robin's finely honed sense of irony and ability to be self-deprecating. Either Barry is unable to recognize this, or he's hoping others aren't. Same for iranitea if that's the quote he checked on. And Robin didn't say the Inquistion "might not be" appropriate in today's age (that's Barry's deliberately misleading phrasing). He said it absolutely WOULD NOT BE appropriate in today's age. In the second post (much shorter), the one in which he says "Hell is worse than the Inquisition," he also says: "It would be perverse to believe that reality as we find it could ever endorse something as violent and pitiless and fanatical as the Inquisition." For those who don't know how or are too lazy to use Advanced Search, here are the URLs to the posts in which the quotes Barry provided are to be found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286108 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/295803 In the first post, you need to read from the quote from Bob Price's post that begins "I agree..." through the paragraph of Robin's response that's followed by "snip" to get the full context of his argument about the Inquisition. You really have to read it carefully and ponder it to get what he's saying; it's very subtle and, granted, very unusual. And you might well not agree with it even if you did get it--but at least you'd know what you were disagreeing with. The second post was not, contrary to Barry's claim, an attempt to "balance" anything. It's an integral part of Robin's thesis. But you'd have to read both posts to have a chance of understanding this. In most cases, cherry-picking a sentence here and a sentence there from Robin's posts to support one's case against him is profoundly dishonest. Also see Robin's other post in the "Inquisition" thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/295812 > And Judy thought I was disgusting in my judgment about him. Thinks. Present tense. You are about as disgusting in your current endeavor as anybody has ever been on FFL. > The truth is I was even too timid in just naming him > borderline. But I think what really upset her was, that > I agreed with YOU. That is the one thing she upsets most > about, and well I do agree with! (You meant to write "that upsets her most." Actually your syntax is too much of a mess in that sentence for even the correct use of "upsets" to work.) You're wrong, of course, but your judgment of me is so wildly skewed and lacking in insight, I'm not surprised you've convinced yourself of this. What some people here fail to understand is that when someone like iranitea or Barry says things that reveal what vile human beings they are, that's upsetting only in the sense that one really doesn't want to believe there are such people in the world, let alone on a forum supposedly focused on spirituality. > Robin, being smart enough, caught her by his unique gift > of flattery, Robin had "caught" me before he had any idea of who I was. > and by judging you just the same way she does. Again, Robin had "caught" me before Barry had ever managed to provoke a nasty response from Robin. > (She even > felt that he was expressing things about you in a way, > she couldn't herself quite put into words, as if he > could anticipate her thoughts. Wrong again. It was what he said about Curtis, not Barry, that I hadn't been able to put into words. See how carefully iranitea has read the posts? > And here she gets into a dangerous zone herself.) Only if one doesn't understand the meaning of the words "as if." > > I suspect there is much to be learned not only by how > > clinically manic one is when describing the people (and > > institutions) one admires and defends, but in the choice > > of the people (and institutions) themselves. I further > > suspect that one can learn as much from which controversial > > fellow posters on Fairfield Life one admires and defends. > > I know exactly what you are trying to say here. Let me put > it this way: There is an area in her life, where she lives > in a world of her own, and she has lost ground to reality. > This you can see, when she discusses here and believes she > has won another battle, See iranitea try to read my mind. Unsuccessfully. > and you could see it, when she behaves like a groupie with > Ravi or Robin. Don't forget all the other people here who liked Ravi and Robin. They're also living in a world of their own, they've also lost ground to reality, apparently. I guess we should call iranitea a Barry groupie, huh? Some here might feel that is a far greater loss of ground to reality than finding Ravi and Robin to be intriguing and appealing individuals.
