--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <jedi_spock@...> wrote: > > > --- turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Interesting. For the record, my memory of him and > > his great "ride on my Jesus stick" story was triggered > > by all the talk of groupies lately. Walter told me this > > story when we were both teaching one of the big Asilomar > > Christmas residence courses. During the days and early > > evenings we were lecturing to 600-700 people, but at > > night we were both fighting off the groupies. > > > > I say this with all humility. :-) It's not that I was > > any more handsome and beddable then than now ( well, a > > little more :-), but we were up onstage, and thus the > > obvious targets for a certain groupie form of unstressing > > that we both called "Let's fuck the course leader!" :-) > > > > It was INTENSE. It was the closest I've ever been to > > being a rock star. Women would be lined up outside the > > lecture halls waiting for us when we came out, and try > > their damnedest to get us into their beds. I was fairly > > moral at the time ( meaning that I never allowed this > > to happen with meditators, only with fellow TM teachers ), > > and so were Walter and the other teachers as I remember, > > but it really *was* quite a scene. > > > > The course participants were probably doing six "rounds" > > a day in that era, and they were stoned out of their > > gourds and had their energy levels jacked up to the max. > > Naturally -- it being the 70s and all -- quite a few of > > them wanted to use that energy the same way they would > > have back at home. And we were the most likely targets. > > > > Weird times... > > Your tone is way different from what you said 10 years ago. > > Your line, "It's something I did in my previous birth baby, > now take of your clothes."
If I were Judy I'd accuse you of being a liar. :-) Instead I'll just suggest that you either made this up or have a seriously faulty memory. You will be unable to find that quote or anything remotely like it attributed to me on any Internet forum. For one thing, your line makes no sense whatsoever. For another, even though I may have been more than a little of a hound in my youth, if I ever needed a line, it would have been a better one than this. Most of the time in the TM movement, I never needed one. Most of the female TM teachers were so frustrated by male TM teachers wanting to be all celibate and holy that they literally *leapt* at any of us who were not. If I ever used a line, it was almost certainly a funny one to make them laugh, such as, "Yeah, I was celibate once, but it was a miserable week so I gave it up," or Woody Allen's famous "Sex without love is an empty experience...but, as empty experiences go, it's one of the best." :-) But most of the time it was just a matter of fully consensual hooking up -- between adults and equals. My "rep" was well established in the L.A. TM teacher circles, and the women knew what they were getting. Fun, sex, laughter, and not much chance of commitment. But that was *enough*, man. It was the 70s -- after the pill and before AIDS. The women who were looking for a suitable "movement hus- band" were looking elsewhere, and I encouraged them to do so. But while they may have been spending their ATR courses (the non-segregated American ones, that is) hitting on the wealthier guys who looked like they would be good baby-daddy material, they were spending their nights back home with me. I made $600 a month as a full-time TM administrator or state coordinator; not really "marriage material." But "fun material," definitely. It was, as I said, the 70s, and I make no apologies either for my behavior or theirs. Life was simpler then, and the prudery and fear of sex that later became the norm in TM circles hadn't really taken hold yet.
