> > Now they're in a spin cycle down the rabbit hole, > > curtisdeltablues: > Excellent line Richard. Nailed and nailed. > Scroll down. Correction: You CAN make this stuff up.
LoL! > > > > "I sent your email to Curtis and Judy... > > > > > > authfriend: > > > Let's see how Curtis spins this into a defense of > > > his dishonest description of Sal's email. Listen up, > > > Barry and Vaj, this is how Mr. Wonderful does it. > > > > > So, it's all about Sal. LoL! > > > > Now they're in a spin cycle down the rabbit hole, just > > making stuff up. let's see what Robin says when he gets > > back online. Now, that's some spin! Sal must be really > > afraid of Robin. Go figure. > > > > > > So let's see how Judy can spin this into troll bait. > > > > Listen up all you apprentice trolls. mama troll is > > > > gunna reveal the formula. > > > > > > > > > > > Amazing, how Curtis managed to turn things around so > > > > > > > that that Emily, the aggrieved party who Sal dumped > > > > > > > on in a private email, is now Emily the instigator > > > > > > > of a nefarious plot to sic Judy on poor Curtis. > > > > > > > Pretty slick, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey thanks for standing up to Judy for calling me > > > > > > dishonest... > > > > > > > > > > > > oh wait, sorry I just read that again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I thought it was to sick Judy on Sal > > > > > > who Emily knows hates Sal. > > > > > > > > > > > Emily was not aware of my criticisms of Sal. > > > > > > > > > You mean the chick you usually refer to as Stupid Sal > > > > and who is obviously on the "other team". Yeah, she > > > > know. > > > > > > > Not according to Emily. > > > > > > > Emily explained > > > > > why she sent it to Curtis and me (see below). Curtis is > > > > > calling Emily a liar. > > > > > > > > > See the move? Because Emily doesn't specifically > > > > mention all possible reasons for sending it to Judy, > > > > anyone who speculates about her reasons is calling > > > > her a liar! > > > > > > > "Emily knows Judy hates Sal" is not a speculation. > > > That's a statement of purported fact. The speculation > > > would have made no sense without the purported fact. > > > > > > > So first she got me to write by calling me a liar > > > > > > > Let's correct this again. I said Curtis's description > > > of Sal's email was dishonest. (I guess you could call > > > it "lying by omission"--it certainly fits that > > > description. Clintonesque, in other words.) > > > > > > Curtis knew what I was referring to. He could have > > > corrected his description of Sal's post to reflect > > > the reality. He chose instead to pretend he'd been > > > unjustly accused. > > > > > > > and now she is hoping to get everyone going including > > > > Emily, who has escaped this nut house with this troll > > > > move by claiming I was calling her a liar. > > > > > > Emily did not claim you were calling her a liar. > > > > > > We'll see at some point what Emily thinks of Curtis's > > > interpretation of events. She's about to go on vacation, > > > so we may not hear from her until she gets back at the > > > end of September. (Curtis breathes a huge sigh of > > > relief and immediately makes plans to be elsewhere > > > when things hit the fan.) > > > > > > > So let me be clear now that Judy has tried to play > > > > this creepy game. > > > > > > Translation: "How the hell can I possibly spin this to > > > make Judy look bad after I stupidly pretended that Sal's > > > hate mail to Emily was no big deal?" > > > > > > > Emily IMO likes stirring the pot here and watching what > > > > happens. She did it often and well. She is a student > > > > of the personal dynamics here and I seriously doubt she > > > > would object to this characterization of her. > > > > > > Interesting, then you'd think she wouldn't have been > > > so upset by Sal's email if it was as benign as you > > > claim, wouldn't you? > > > > > > > When she included Judy she knew exactly what the Judy > > > > package comes with. I believe that she hoped for a > > > > little Judy/Sal smackdown in return for Sal's critical > > > > email. And NO she didn't say this herself, but that > > > > doesn't mean that the reason she gave isn't also true. > > > > It just may not be the complete list of motivations for > > > > why she chose YOU. > > > > > > > I'll leave this for Emily to respond to directly, since > > > I can't post Emily's emails to me that indicate otherwise. > > > > > > > > > [Judy] wasn't only calling me dishonest, she was > > > > > > insinuating without proof that Sal's email was > > > > > > somehow more egregious the how I described it. > > > > > > > > > > Emily also described Sal's email as being more egregious > > > > > than how Curtis described it. > > > > > > > > Duh,she was being criticized and I was being defended. > > > > Imagine that, we have different perspectives on the same > > > > email, what an amazing thing. > > > > > > > Not the issue, as Curtis knows. Emily wouldn't have a > > > problem with reasonably polite disagreement or even > > > fair criticism. > > > > > > Ah, but this is the first time Curtis has let slip > > > that the email was *critical of Emily*. > > > > > > Note that Curtis did *not* describe the email as "very > > > unpleasant" or "*so* angry" or "bad energy." No, here's > > > Curtis's description: > > > > > > - It was Sal's opinion > > > - Sal expressed concern about some people online > > > (actually that would be one person, not "some > > > people") > > > - Sal was sticking up for Curtis > > > > > > And according to Curtis, I could have no valid challenge > > > to his honesty in describing the email like that. > > > > > > I suggest that Curtis knows Emily's terms are right on > > > the money no matter who was being criticized and who > > > defended. > > > > > > [Quoting Emily's post] > > > > > I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday > > > > > from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue > > > > > between Robin and Curtis. Now, that dialogue has gone > > > > > offline so it's not up for comment anyhow. I have a lot > > > > > of respect for them both, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > Sal, if it's on FFL it is fair game. Those are the > > > > > rules. If you can't handle the heat get out of the > > > > > fire. That's what I do from time to time. Do *not* > > > > > email me privately again. If you do, I will post it > > > > > directly to FFL. If you would like to say something to > > > > > me, post it here at FFL. I sent your email to Curtis > > > > > and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the > > > > > only two people at the time that I could remember that > > > > > knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were > > > > > listed here. > > > > > I was looking for perspective on that email because it > > > > > was *so* angry. I apologize to Judy and Curtis for > > > > > forwarding bad energy. It won't happen again. > > > > > ----- > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319943 > > > > > > Note that Curtis's version--that Emily wanted to "stir the > > > pot" and foment "a little Judy/Sal smackdown in return for > > > Sal's critical email" is not in the least consistent with > > > what Emily said quoted above. Curtis doesn't come right > > > out and say Emily is lying, but he might as well. > > > > > > > > > I was just bonus entertainment. > > > > > > > > > > Curtis has made himself the main event by dishonestly > > > > > portraying Sal's email to Emily. > > > > > > > > So if you can't make a case for it, just repeat it again > > > > and again. Right out of the troll playbook. > > > > > > If Curtis had acknowledged that Sal's email was way > > > out of line, the focus would have remained on Sal. By > > > dishonestly portraying it as no big deal, he's put the > > > focus on himself. > > > > > > > > > I was trying to balance out a post by Dr. Dummass that > > > > > > was calling Sal crazy since I had actually read the > > > > > > email and the good Dr had not. > > > > > > Now I'm beginning to wonder whether, in his eagerness to > > > contradict Dr. Dumbass, Curtis simply forgot for a moment > > > that I had seen the email too. > > > > > > > > And having read the email, Curtis knew it supported Dr. > > > > > Dumbass's speculation about Sal. But Curtis figured he > > > > > was safe because he didn't think either Emily or I would > > > > > post the email. And *he* certainly wasn't going to. > > > > > > > > Judy speaking on my behalf and saying exactly the > > > > opposite of what I actually DID say about the email. > > > > I wonder what they call this... > > > > > > It's called Judy describing Sal's email accurately > > > after Curtis has described it dishonestly. > > > > > > > > Curtis tries again to distract attention from the spot > > > > > he's in by going after Dr. Dumbass: > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't been paying much attention is Dr. and old > > > > > > FFL poster with a new name? That was a curiously > > > > > > inside comment from what was posted about the > > > > > > exchange. I suspect a bit of contrived innocence in > > > > > > that post. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Do you have history with Sal? > > > > > > > > > > I don't know about the doctor, but a lot of people on > > > > > FFL have an unpleasant history with Sal, as Curtis > > > > > knows. > > > > > > > > > > It's Curtis's honesty that's at issue here. Notice how > > > > > he's attempting to twist the spotlight away from himself > > > > > to focus on others: me, Emily, Raunchy, and now Dr. > > > > > Dumbass. > > > > > > > > My focus is on your trollery through your false > > > > accusations. > > > > > > Your focus is to try to avoid getting nailed for > > > your dishonest description of Sal's email. > > > > > > > > Of the three people who have read the email, two agree > > > > > that it's far worse than Curtis has been attempting to > > > > > portray it, including Emily, the person to whom it was > > > > > sent. > > > > > > > > Actually Sal thought it was just fine, so you have two > > > > on two, nice try. > > > > > > Now Curtis is *really* getting desperate. Can you just > > > imagine how he'd be howling with outrage if I tried to > > > make this excuse? > > > > > > Obviously Sal thought it was fine or she wouldn't > > > have sent it in the first place. What she thought of > > > it is irrelevant, as Curtis knows. > > > > > > The point is that it *wasn't* fine. Emily, who is a > > > "student of the personal dynamics here" and who > > > likes to "stir the pot," according to Curtis, was > > > freaked out by Sal's email because it was so furiously > > > angry and atrociously nasty, not to mention seriously > > > confused, not to mention entirely gratuitous. Emily > > > had had no private conversations with Sal and no > > > significant public ones. > > > > > > Sal has posted some very nasty stuff here on FFL, > > > but nothing as bad as this email. > > > > > > > > Before Curtis weighed in here, Emily testified that she > > > > > had a lot of respect for Curtis. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how she feels about him now. > > > > > > > > Emily may or may not respect me but I know one thing > > > > for sure. I am not exempt from her desire to have us > > > > entertain her, and she is not against stirring the > > > > pot when it suits her. I welcomed her wry wit even > > > > when I was on the receiving end it. > > > > > > You did, eh? I guess you didn't think to tell Sal that, > > > did you? Because it sure wasn't clear to her, as you > > > know. Did you let her know privately that she'd gotten > > > it wrong so she could then apologize to Emily? > > > > > > No? > > > > > > > This whole event doesn't change my view of her at all. > > > > > > The question is whether this whole event has changed > > > her view of you. > > > > > > > And of course your behavior through all this is what I > > > > expected Judy. > > > > > > Right, Curtis, we know each other pretty well by now. > > > We know what to expect from each other. You behave > > > dishonestly, and I catch you at it. Very predictable.
