I paid 65 bucks - student price at the time - and Buddha never mentioned them 
because he knew damn well you don't need mantras to get enlightened.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> mjackson74:
> > Beautiful way of saying all we need is meditation and 
> > all the rest including vastu is expensive fluff, good 
> > for the Movement's pocketbook and dubious prestige but 
> > totally unnecessary for enlightenment or to live a good 
> > fulfilling life.
> > 
> In TM you get one single bija mantra and all the rest is
> just fertilizer. All you have to do is water the seed
> syllable and enjoy the fruit. You probably got your bija
> mantra for $35, so what? LoL!
> 
> According to the Indian mythology 'mantra' is the 
> 'primary seed sound of the universe', called 'Shabd' in 
> Sanskrit. In the Rig Veda Shabd is personified as 'Vac', 
> the first primal sound percieved as human speech. 
> 
> According to the Indian tantric theory the devas and 
> bodhisatvas do not take kindly to being addressed by 
> their real names, which are seldom known by ordinary 
> people. 
> 
> So, some yogi fakirs of old thought they knew the Gods 
> well enough that they could even call the gods by 
> nicknames! 
> 
> Calling upon the Gods with their real names is very 
> sometimes offensive to the Gods, according to some 
> fakirs, and confusing to the people who cannot understand 
> nonsense gibberish. 
> 
> Apparently, some uninformed dillatante types once 
> overheard some of these so-called 'secret' names being 
> chanted in Buddhist hybrid-Sanskrit at a drum-bangin' 
> yoga camp-meet, amd mistook these for the real first 
> names of the Gods. 
> 
> This, in itself is a strange tale, as it implies a 
> hierarchy of those who pretend to know the secret names, 
> those who 'wanna know the names', and those who do not 
> know any nick-names, except ones they read in a 
> paperback book. 
> 
> If bija mantras were to be used to address the Gods in 
> secret or public ritual praise, Sage Patanjali would 
> have said so in the 195 aphorisms, would he not? Or, if 
> any bija mantras were known to be used back then, the 
> historical Buddha would have mentioned them, right?
> 
> Now for the historical facts:
> 
> The bija mantras were first invented by the so-called
> 'Eighty-four Mahasiddhas' specificaly as meaningless 
> sounds to be focusing on for yoga meditation practice,
> according to Naropa and sGampopa.
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'The Jewel Ornament of Liberation' 
> sGam.po.pa, Herbert V. Guenther (Translator) 
> Shambhala, 2001
> 
> 'Masters of Mahamudra'
> Songs and Histories of the Eighty-Four Buddhist Siddhas
> By Keith Dowman
> State University of New York, 1986
>  
> > > > The devic energy or energy of the personifications of the 
> > > > laws of nature formed the energy that people would pick up 
> > > > on and using that energy create all the aspects of their 
> > > > culture...
> > > >
> > > For practical purposes all we as TMers need to know about 
> > > the Devas are that they are pleased when we think their 
> > > names as bija mantra. For example, Saraswati, The Goddess 
> > > of knowledge, music, arts and science, is very pleased to 
> > > hear Her name and She will grant you a boon if you are 
> > > worthy. However, as Sri Ramana Maharshi says "Your own 
> > > Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the 
> > > world." 
> > > 
> > > All you have to do is sit comfortably and be aware of the 
> > > bija mantra. This 'just sitting and thinking' is Yoga, the 
> > > best path on the planet for to get enlightened. This is 
> > > just being aware of being aware; that's it, that's all you 
> > > have to do! Pure awareness. 
> > > 
> > > It has already been established that the Indo-Europeans 
> > > brought Mantra Yoga to South Asia. 
> > > 
> > > http://tinyurl.com/924qda5
> > > 
> > > And, the Vedas reveal the mantras, with the Upanishads 
> > > their explanation.
> > > 
> > > Note: 
> > > 
> > > So, we have MMY giving us the bija of Saraswati, a bija 
> > > that he recieved from Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, who in 
> > > turn got the bija from Swami Krishanand Saraswati of the 
> > > Sringeri Matha. 
> > > 
> > > So, we have the Saraswati bija mantra going back to Adi 
> > > Shankaracharya who founded the Sringeri, and put there 
> > > the Sri Yantra with the bijas inscribed on it. Then, the 
> > > Shankarachara wrote out the Soundarylahari and the Ananda 
> > > Lahari, which explained and enumerated all thirteen Sri 
> > > Vidya bija mantras.
> > > 
> > > So much for the facts.
> > >
> >
>


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