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________________________________ From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 I've only had a chance to glance at the article but it has some good information in it. One of Sivananda's students was a woman who lived in Spokane that I wished I had known about when I lived back in eastern Washington during the 1980s. I frequently took my mother to see a specialist in Spokane and had time to kill so I could have visited her. In the 90s I bought her little book on mantras which was quite insightful. Here is a website dedicated to her: http://www.yasodhara.org/about/spiritual-directors/swami-sivananda-radha/ On 09/27/2012 08:08 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > Do you think this page is accurate? > > http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 > > > > If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then > you need to find a teacher who will teach you some "mantra shastra." > You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere. Swami > Sivananda was famous for teaching it. My tantric guru teaches it too. > He also recommends Swami Sivananda's book "Mind -- Its Mysteries and > Control" which you may find here: > http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm > > Published in 1946 way before TM was a twinkle in MMY's eye. > > TM is nothing more than a simple mantra meditation not unlike a lot of > meditation taught elsewhere. It was just hyped like Apple hypes PCs > tablets and phones with their logo on it. > > On 09/27/2012 12:03 PM, mjackson74 wrote: >> Look Richard, let me be very plain here - I do not give a damn where the >> mantras came from nor do I know why you obsess over their origins so much. >> Were I to be coming to TM now with no prior knowledge of the practice, I >> might be interested. >> >> In 1974 it never occurred to me to ask - I accepted the statement that >> Virginia Bedford and Jamie Vollmer (the two TM Center people) made that the >> mantras were meaningless sounds. John Briganti, the first teacher I took a >> residence course with told us the same thing. Believed it too. And since the >> mantra still works after 38 years, I see no need to ask where it came from. >> >> My remarks about my other two mantras received from the Movement were >> facetious references to my two advanced techniques. >> >> The other two bija mantras came as I said, one from Bob Fickes, former TM >> teacher who I believe was on TTC with Rick (sorry if I got that wrong Rick.) >> >> Bob now has his own thing he calls Fulfillment Meditation. Totally different >> set of mantras although interestingly he still does puja, but he puts pics >> of not only Guru Dev on the puja table but pics of Kwan Yin, Archangel >> Michael and so on. >> >> The last bija mantra I got is a Deepak Chopra mantra. Chopra instructors do >> not use TM puja. Their meditation program was mainly put together by Deepak >> and Roger Gabriel, an old TM teacher who I believe left the TM Movement the >> same time Chopra did and went with him to California when Chopra set up the >> Chopra Center. >> >> The Chopra instructors use a sanskrit chant, the shanti mantra Gabriel >> called it, which shanti mantra chant I do not know. >> >> So yes, when I use the Babaji mantra (what Bob calls his mantras) I am not >> doing TM. >> >> When I use the Chopra mantra, I am not doing TM. ' >> >> When I use my three TM mantras (spoken facetiously for the Fairfield Life's >> version of Sheldon Cooper's benefit), meaning my TM mantra plus advanced >> techniques, I am doing TM. If that don't satisfy you Sheldon, I dunno whut. >> >> Nice pic of Michael Jackson - that obviously is not me or these posts would >> be coming from beyond the grave. >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@...> >> wrote: >>>>> Careful Jackson, pearls before swine. This is >>>>> a tough rough crowd here. Rick has visions of >>>>> this place being a salon but it plays more like >>>>> a saloon... >>>>> >>> nablusoss1008: >>>> With all due respect Buck, why not let the >>>> posters speak freely? >>>> >>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/> >>> >>> Apparently Mr. Jackson doesn't want to talk about >>> the elephant in the room - the bijas mantra you get >>> when you start TM. Jackson desn't seem to know >>> much about them - he didn't seem to realize that >>> you get only one bija when you learn TM, when he >>> paid the $65. >>> >>> And, if you adopt other bijas from other teachers, >>> then you're not practicing TM. >>> >>>> When finally someone with an insiders >>>> view on the above topics volunteer to share his >>>> insights who are you to try to stop him? >>> So, it's unlikely you'll be getting any insider >>> information revealed by Mr. Jackson. >>> >>>> Let anyone freely display his Pearls of Wisdom ! >>>> >>> LoL! >>> >>> Michael Jackson? >>> >> > >
