Yes, excellent article. Everyone on FFL should read this and certainly come back to meditate in the Domes! Soon. -Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Do you think this page is accurate? > > http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bhairitu <noozguru@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 > > > Â > If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then > you need to find a teacher who will teach you some "mantra shastra." > You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere. Swami > Sivananda was famous for teaching it. My tantric guru teaches it too. > He also recommends Swami Sivananda's book "Mind -- Its Mysteries and > Control" which you may find here: > http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm > > Published in 1946 way before TM was a twinkle in MMY's eye. > > TM is nothing more than a simple mantra meditation not unlike a lot of > meditation taught elsewhere. It was just hyped like Apple hypes PCs > tablets and phones with their logo on it. > > On 09/27/2012 12:03 PM, mjackson74 wrote: > > Look Richard, let me be very plain here - I do not give a damn where the > > mantras came from nor do I know why you obsess over their origins so much. > > Were I to be coming to TM now with no prior knowledge of the practice, I > > might be interested. > > > > In 1974 it never occurred to me to ask - I accepted the statement that > > Virginia Bedford and Jamie Vollmer (the two TM Center people) made that the > > mantras were meaningless sounds. John Briganti, the first teacher I took a > > residence course with told us the same thing. Believed it too. And since > > the mantra still works after 38 years, I see no need to ask where it came > > from. > > > > My remarks about my other two mantras received from the Movement were > > facetious references to my two advanced techniques. > > > > The other two bija mantras came as I said, one from Bob Fickes, former TM > > teacher who I believe was on TTC with Rick (sorry if I got that wrong Rick.) > > > > Bob now has his own thing he calls Fulfillment Meditation. Totally > > different set of mantras although interestingly he still does puja, but he > > puts pics of not only Guru Dev on the puja table but pics of Kwan Yin, > > Archangel Michael and so on. > > > > The last bija mantra I got is a Deepak Chopra mantra. Chopra instructors do > > not use TM puja. Their meditation program was mainly put together by Deepak > > and Roger Gabriel, an old TM teacher who I believe left the TM Movement the > > same time Chopra did and went with him to California when Chopra set up the > > Chopra Center. > > > > The Chopra instructors use a sanskrit chant, the shanti mantra Gabriel > > called it, which shanti mantra chant I do not know. > > > > So yes, when I use the Babaji mantra (what Bob calls his mantras) I am not > > doing TM. > > > > When I use the Chopra mantra, I am not doing TM. ' > > > > When I use my three TM mantras (spoken facetiously for the Fairfield Life's > > version of Sheldon Cooper's benefit), meaning my TM mantra plus advanced > > techniques, I am doing TM. If that don't satisfy you Sheldon, I dunno whut. > > > > Nice pic of Michael Jackson - that obviously is not me or these posts would > > be coming from beyond the grave. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@> > > wrote: > >> > >>>> Careful Jackson, pearls before swine. This is > >>>> a tough rough crowd here. Rick has visions of > >>>> this place being a salon but it plays more like > >>>> a saloon... > >>>> > >> nablusoss1008: > >>> With all due respect Buck, why not let the > >>> posters speak freely? > >>> > >> <http://www.vanityfair.com/> > >> > >> Apparently Mr. Jackson doesn't want to talk about > >> the elephant in the room - the bijas mantra you get > >> when you start TM. Jackson desn't seem to know > >> much about them - he didn't seem to realize that > >> you get only one bija when you learn TM, when he > >> paid the $65. > >> > >> And, if you adopt other bijas from other teachers, > >> then you're not practicing TM. > >> > >>> When finally someone with an insiders > >>> view on the above topics volunteer to share his > >>> insights who are you to try to stop him? > >> So, it's unlikely you'll be getting any insider > >> information revealed by Mr. Jackson. > >> > >>> Let anyone freely display his Pearls of Wisdom ! > >>> > >> LoL! > >> > >> Michael Jackson? > >> > > > > >
