--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I look forward instead to having actual "no need to
> > 'win'...just having a fun discussion" interactions 
> > with people who have evolved past the level of 
> > trying to establish dominance -- dominance of their
> > egos, and dominance of their ideas. I look forward to
> > khazana108 being back, because he "gets" that kind
> > of interaction, and I look forward to similar inter-
> > actions with other people here who have established
> > a history of being able to maintain that kind of
> > non-attached, non-argumentative real dialogue. 
> 
> Thanks Barry, and so do I look forward having dialogues 
> with you. While I was away I read, once in a while (on 
> my phone), you, I read Xeno, I read Curtis, I read Share. 
> 
> Who's really interested in the barking of a bit-bull, 
> in adolescent high school ramblings (we have some 
> specialists here), or endless drama queenerie about the 
> meaning of a single word? I guess FFL has become the 
> troll-dustbin of other forums by now.

Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
the phenomenon I call "throwing oneself on the turd."
It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
it's what happens when one of the clique either
suffers from poor impulse control or consciously
decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
barb at the Common Enemy, even though they know that
it'll cause them to "post out" and sit on the Stupid
People's Bench for a week.

The fascinating thing about this phenomenon from a
psychological or sociological point of view is that
the last steaming turd is often thrown at someone
who isn't even reading the thrower's posts. So the
"turd offering" is not even "aimed" at the person
it's supposedly thrown at. Instead it's thrown to
curry favor with other women (even if they're not
technically women, just acting like them) in their
clique. What's up with that? Do they *collect*
turds or something?  :-)

Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
talk the most about "forgiveness" and its healing
power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
apologies from others for "offenses" supposedly
committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
with that, too?

With this in mind, here are a number of quotes I
found with regard to apology, or apologizing. I 
found them interesting, and you might, too:

"No one who demands an apology deserves one." 
- Raymond Chandler

"Demanding an apology is an attempt to prolong 
and escalate a disagreement, not diffuse it." 
- Fritz Perls

"Anyone demanding an apology is an extortionist. 
They are declaring their intention to hold onto 
a grudge, whether real ore imaginary, until you 
pay their ransom. The thing is, just as with 
financial extortionists, if you pay the ransom 
you're just inviting the next attempt at extortion." 
- Dashiell Hammett

"She stomped out, spun on her heel and said that 
if I didn't apologize she'd never speak to me 
again. I thanked her for getting the point, and 
closed the door." 
- Raymond Chandler

"It is a good rule in life never to apologize. 
The right sort of people do not want apologies, 
and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them." 
- P. G. Wodehouse

"Apologies can never be demanded, they're only 
apologies if they're offered freely." 
- some Buddha or another 


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